From candy1mint at aol.com Mon Apr 9 21:15:30 2007 From: candy1mint at aol.com (candy1mint at aol.com) Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2007 17:15:30 -0400 Subject: [Blogging-l] Code of Conduct Message-ID: <8C9490356A79201-180-B6D@MBLK-M30.sysops.aol.com> Section 5 Spelling issues. We require commenters commentators to supply a valid email address before they can post, though we allow commenters commentators to identify themselves with an alias, rather than their real name. I find this section somewhat obscure, in that it does not make clear that the real identity is to be stored in the event that it becomes necessary to uphold the code. Also, is the "published" alias to be accompanied by an e-address? General comment: I think that this idea of a code is a great idea. I found Robert Scoble's comment (in NY Times) rather foolish. And if intelligent people such as Scoble take such a position, it means that they have little understanding of sociology or of our constitutional rights and responsibilities. O?Reilly's comment was right on - civil society fosters free expression because it dampens down harassment and intimidation. The ACLU has existed these many years precisely because the balance of control versus freedom is a complex one, and any commentator that holds one or the other end of that dimension in an absolute manner does not think clearly about this Would that we also could dampen down viciousness and stupidity. The net, being free, has spawned untold amounts of garbage. So in a way, this increase in the signal to noise ratio makes civil discourse harder to maintain, because one tends to tune out SPELLING ISSUES. We require commenters COMMENTATORS to supply a valid email address before they can post, though we allow commenters COMMENTATORS to identify themselves with an alias, rather than their real name. I FIND THIS SECTION SOMEWHAT OBSCURE, IN THAT IT DOES NOT MAKE CLEAR THAT THE REAL IDENTITY IS TO BE STORED IN THE EVENT THAT IT BECOMES NECESSARY TO UPHOLD THE CODE. ALSO, IS THE "PUBLISHED" ALIAS TO BE ACCOMPANIED BY AN E-ADDRESS? GENERAL COMMENT: I THINK THAT THIS IDEA OF A CODE IS A GREAT IDEA. I FOUND ROBERT SCOBLE'S COMMENT (IN NY TIMES) RATHER FOOLISH. AND IF INTELLIGENT PEOPLE SUCH AS SCOBLE TAKE SUCH A POSITION, IT MEANS THAT THEY HAVE LITTLE UNDERSTANDING OF SOCIOLOGY OR OF OUR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS AND RESPONSIBILITIES. O'REILLY'S COMMENT WAS RIGHT ON - CIVIL SOCIETY FOSTERS FREE EXPRESSION BECAUSE IT DAMPENS DOWN HARASSMENT AND INTIMIDATION. THE ACLU HAS EXISTED THESE MANY YEARS PRECISELY BECAUSE THE BALANCE OF CONTROL VERSUS FREEDOM IS A COMPLEX ONE, AND ANY COMMENTATOR THAT HOLDS ONE OR THE OTHER END OF THAT DIMENSION IN AN ABSOLUTE MANNER DOES NOT THINK CLEARLY ABOUT THIS WOULD THAT WE ALSO COULD DAMPEN DOWN VICIOUSNESS AND STUPIDITY. THE NET, BEING FREE, HAS SPAWNED UNTOLD AMOUNTS OF GARBAGE. SO IN A WAY, THIS INCREASE IN THE SIGNAL TO NOISE RATIO MAKES CIVIL DISCOURSE HARDER TO MAINTAIN, BECAUSE ONE TENDS TO TUNE OUT. ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.wikia.com/pipermail/blogging-l/attachments/20070409/c4410bea/attachment.html From angela at wikia.com Mon Apr 16 00:27:05 2007 From: angela at wikia.com (Angela Beesley) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 01:27:05 +0100 Subject: [Blogging-l] Creating modules for the Blogger's Code of Conduct Message-ID: <8b722b800704151727y6c5d44bck4000ed62d5ccff74@mail.gmail.com> As Tim said at , there is a "need for a more modular code of conduct, a set of axioms rather than a single monolithic code of conduct or terms of service." With this in mind, I've split the code into nine separate pages, based on the original modules and some new ones that had been proposed on the wiki. The idea is that bloggers can select the modules they want for their own version of the code. A system of logos could be created to make it easy to show which modules you are using - though perhaps 9 modules are too much for that? What do you all think? The nine modules are linked from . A few alternate versions were suggested and these now have their own pages linked from . If there is a specific module you are interested in, please join the discussion about that section on the wiki. Angela -- Angela Beesley Wikia.com From karmax at gmail.com Mon Apr 16 06:21:24 2007 From: karmax at gmail.com (KarMax) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 03:21:24 -0300 Subject: [Blogging-l] A catch variant Message-ID: I read the Bloggers code of conduct and... it will be good if you put some "catch" variant saying something like "Free For All", where even spam is welcome. It will be a catch variant because the bloggers who doesn't care about the contents his comments doesn't really need a "code" or an insignia... good bye, good code -- Gonzalo Martinez www.karmax.com.ar Jabber: KarMax at jabber.org