[Campaigns-l] Languages

[YYK H]

I am hoping the HK site will be in both Chinese and English since
these are the official/legal language of the city and people there
have diverse background (not necessary Chinese), however, I am not
certain about the logistic of it yet (both language on one page or
have the switching mechanism mentioned before).

This localization is not so much a "breaking off" but more of a
sub-category to help discussion and representation of issues.  It is
my understanding that the global guiding principle of Campaigns Wikia
is having intelligent and thoughtful discussion of political issues
(beyond election) but not necessary a global one-size fits all
consensuses of values (which is what I worry about if all local
politics are mix into one main site.)  Just to be clear, I am not
trying to "fend off" foreign contribution to local issues.  In fact,
on issues such as political reform in HK that is suppose to bring more
democracy... experiences from citizens of democratic society would be
very beneficial.  However, when these experiences are presented, they
must be presented in a way that understand or at least respect the
differences in culture and context and I believe a clearly distinctive
localization would help in that respect.

I think it's great that you have interest in politics in so many
places and I think this will actually help you find local information
much easier.  However, in order to engage the people at a personal
level, I do believe that most politics should have local distinction
because what's best for everyone in one place may not be practical in
another.  For instance, political reform in Iran are more on religion
vs secularism, which is a different type of reform than that in HK.
Similarly, there's also talk of political reform (Senate reform) in
Canada to make the system more responsive to the people and that is
also entirely different form the two mentioned before.  While I am
interested in politics in many places as well, I don't think many
people have the necessary time/energy to do so.  And I think it's up
to people like us to connect and raise the local discussion to a
higher (regional, international, global) level when it is necessary.
An general English page on the topic of "political reform" won't help
the local to make better policy decisions.

Kenny

On 8/2/06, Chad Lupkes <chadlupkes at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> The details of the Chinese language diversity I didn't know, so this is good
> information.
>
> Would the Hong Kong site be in a different language than Chinese, or are you
> asking for a regional specific version?  My understanding is that we're
> trying not to create regional sites, only language based.  Hong Kong
> elections are welcome in English on the main site, and if we need a Chinese
> language Campaigns site then let's get one started.  But I'd rather not see
> regions break off from the main site.  This needs to be a global movement,
> and I'm almost as interested in Hong Kong elections as I am in Seattle
> races, which is where I live.  We're all in this together.
>
>
> Chad
>
>
>
> On 8/2/06, YYK H <y2keynes at gmail.com> wrote:
> > I believe wikipedia default the Chinese version to which ever one was
> > used on first edit and then give option to convert to all simplified
> > or all traditional.  At the beginning I thought they are all default
> > to simplified (just because there are a lot of simplified pages and
> > Chinese wikipedia main page is defaulted to simplified chinese) but I
> > did find a few articles that are default to traditional.
> >
> > I think those tabs are useful if a localized campaigns have multiple
> > official languages, however, those tabs may get pretty messy if the
> > page are on concepts that are more "global"... say if the mission
> > statement is translated into 50 languages then you may have problem
> > with too many tabs.
> >
> > Who can add tabs there anyway?  admin?  which reminds me... I have
> > requested a new wikia for the the Hong Kong-localized version
> > (hk.campaigns.wikia.com) of Campaigns Wikia a week ago.  How long does
> > this process take usually?  Is the request queue getting really long
> > because of Wikimania?
> >
> > Kenny
> >
> > On 8/2/06, Angela <beesley at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > It's a Chinese wikia for left wing information, but what caught my
> attention
> > > > was the navigation links along the top.
> > > >
> > > > zh
> > > > cn
> > > > tw
> > > > sg
> > > > hk
> > >
> > > These are automatic links that perform an automated translation into
> > > different versions of Chinese. All simplified Chinese wikis have these
> > > options by default.
> > >
> > > Angela.
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