[Campaigns-l] Tabs

[Jennifer M.]

I agree that tabs may lead to "two extremes" writing.

I was looking at the Marijuana page and the people against legalization
wrote something about "pot has lots of unstudied chemicals in it so it's
unethical to experiment on people"... but the same reasoning means we should
ban herbal supplements and tobacco.  Most herbal supplements are taken for
*health reasons* rather than "to get a buzz" yet they don't even have their
*main* ingredient tested for efficacy and safety.

This particular argument seems like it's a "pro legalization" argument and
so it didn't seem like it would be right to edit the "Con" page to include
this note about the logical extensions of the reasoning to something many
people would object to (making tobacco illegal).

Personally, I'd rather keep the pro and con on the *same* page and give them
equal time on each sub issue.  For example, wikipedia has an article on the
simplification of Chinese characters with a big section of the debate about
simplification that I quite like:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simplified_Chinese_character

They put *each argument* in a list and gave the pro versus con on each
argument right next to the response where you can compare them on the same
screen instead of bouncing back and forth.  If you allow debate on the pages
it's even worse... because if an argument has both sides which page does it
belong on, pro or con?  If you're just looking for a specific sub argument
you have to scan both pages rather than just one.

-Jennifer

On 8/5/06, Chad Lupkes <chadlupkes at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Don't forget, this is in infancy right now.  General subjects might not be
> appropriate for pro/con arguments, because there are so many details that
> need to be worked out.  As the site evolves and grows, we'll see articles
> like Space split off into multiple sub-debates.  And yes, there are people
> who argue that the Moon is a goal but that Mars is a waste of time, and
> people who argue the opposite.  It shows the lack of long term vision in our
> culture right now.
>
> What about putting borders around the unused tabs without the color?
>
> Chad
>
>
> On 8/5/06, YYK H <y2keynes at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I think they are pretty cool.  Your wife may be right about the colour
> > though... not that it's that hard to tell but I think less obstacle is
> > better to engage people...
> >
> > While the tabs are useful, I worry that it may some how frame the
> > discussion into two extreme.  For sure there will be issues that
> > really should be just black and white but what about those that can
> > have spectrum of prespectives?  I am not sure if it can be done (or if
> > it's even necessary)... but say... for environmental protection...
> > it's probably not just Pro or Con... or Intervention or
> > non-intervention but may be in what situation should intervention be
> > made.  Or in the space exploration example...  is it possible to have
> > someone argue for, may be, exploration to upper orbit... or moon...
> > but not mars and beyond?
> >
> > Kenny
> >
> >
> > On 8/4/06, Chad Lupkes < chadlupkes at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Ok, I've copied the tab templates from More Perfect, and Waldsen and I
> > are
> > > experimenting with them.
> > >
> > > http://campaigns.wikia.com/wiki/Marijuana
> > >
> > > http://campaigns.wikia.com/wiki/Space_Exploration
> > >
> > > The only issue I have right now is the colors, and my wife says that
> > it
> > > might not be obvious to people unfamiliar with the site that they are
> > tabs
> > > that move from place to place.  I think a single click would provide
> > that
> > > knowledge.
> > >
> > > What do people think?
> > >
> > >
> > > Chad
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