[Campaigns-l] some structurally proposals - language overlapping

[Chad Lupkes]

On 8/18/06, VirtualOffice at gmx.net <VirtualOffice at gmx.net> wrote:
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> Hi Chad, hello all,
>
> today I would like to make some language overlapping proposals for the
> structure of the Campaign Wikia's.
>
> Maybe anybody like some of this...
>
> Unfortunately its very silent here. :-( And I miss Jimmy.
> I would like to start working...
>
>
> Ingmar
>
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> Voters Guide
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>
> I like the voters guide on the basis of the UN geoscheme and I think this
> should be a perfect base for all language wikias. My personal opinion. :)


If this is agreed by the majority of users on a particular language site,
then translating the geoscheme and the regional templates should be a
priority for that site.  I don't think that can or should be part of an
automatic translation script.  All the templates are open for copying.

I would like, if candidates would also get a personal User Acount (!), so
> that the topics from the candidates would have three scopes and the
> political candidates activ will be integrated:
>
> 1. a neutral scope, where the candidates have nothing to seek and where
> the information about the candidate will only write from the peoples in a
> neutral form
>
> 2. a scope only for the candiate, where the candidate can declare oneself
> and take a stand about topics
>
> 3. a own forum, where the candidate can discuss with voters


I believe the APOV policy, if approved by Jimmy Wales, would do most of what
you are asking for here.  Although having each campaign use our site as
their primary forum would probably be beyond our scope.  One candidate in
Maine has already had their own wikia site created, although nothing much
has been on there yet.  I don't think the language sites should be used by
individual campaigns, but should be a common hub for all campaigns to
present their candidates and policy recommendations.

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> Electoral Calender
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>
> I like the elctoral calender and i think this should be also a perfect
> base for all language wikias. Only problem: the languages. If we have a new
> entry in the english site, we will have no update on other language sites
> and vice versa.


That's to be expected, and I don't believe that should change.  In my
opinion, any translations need to be done manually, as it is done on
Wikipedia itself.  We should encourage people who understand multiple
languages to compare and correct mistranslations and add missing
information, but I don't see any way to make that an automatic process.

Solution: international standarts. The main structure of all basic topics
> should be set after colloborations generell as standarts. For the electoral
> calender we should take the structure of the calender in english as the
> standart, searchable by area. The administration of the country calender
> should be by people from the countrys, which speak english and her country
> language.




Then this admins would make the following:
>
> set the new entry in her country language and in english. So we would have
> every entry in english and the country language. With the english entry the
> people from all other languages can translate, if they want.
>
> A example for the calender in english:
>
> January xx 2007: Germany, President (en,de)
>
> The same entry on the german wikia:
>
> xx Januar 2007: Deutschland, Kanzler (en,de)
>
> And on all other language sites will be stand automatical the english
> entry:
>
> January xx 2007: Germany, President (en,de)
>
> And with the automatical english entry, the people can now desice: either
> they let the entry in english or the translate in her home language)


Again, I don't see how any of this can be automatic.  It's going to take
someone seeing that an addition of content has occured, and that person will
have to ensure that the same content is translated and copied to English,
thus notifying people from the other language sites of the new content.

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> Campaigns Guide
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>
> A campaigns guide, which is searchable by theme and area. So we could
> choose or create a campaign over four ways.
>
> theme > area > campaigns
> area > theme > campaigns
> theme > all campaigns
> area > all campaigns
>
>
> Themes as basic topics like "Civil Rights", "Education" etc. with
> undertopics with the special themes to the basic theme, like on
> campaigns.wika.com
>
> But I think this basic topics should be set after a colloboration as
> standarts for all language Wikias, so that the interchange with links is
> easy. Different basic topics for themes would be very complicating for the
> international work. Maybe the UN has also a guide for political standart
> topics scopes? If yes, we should only translate this in the single
> languages. If not, we should create our own :)
>
>
> For the campaigns sites I think its also very important, that the basic
> site of a campaign is compact. Short informations with links in the
> information text to underpages or outside links (for example Wikipedia). So
> people can decide: Need I more information as the standartinformation or
> not? If yes, the people can click the links in the text. If not, they can
> fast make here pro _or_ contra statement or read infos for meetings or
> actions.
>
> But this is also general important: Many people have not the time and the
> patience to read longer texts. So it would be good if we would set such a
> practice as a standart: fast introduction - and if they need more infos,
> they can click the links in the infotext to underpages or outside links.
>
>
> This standart headings or scopes I would propose:
>
> info (compact campaign info with deeper links), pro, contra, list of
> supporters, meetings, actions, weblinks, forum


The category structure on English came from the articles that were being
created.  Looking at the German [[Kategorie:Themen]], it looks like many of
the categories have been established, but are waiting for articles that
fit.  We're trying to keep unused categories to a minimum in English.

I also notice that you are being much more theme focused than candidate
focused.  That's a difference between the United States and Germany that I
would love to explore further.  I would love to see politics on our side of
the Atlantic be focused more on values and policy rather than the charisma
of this or that candidate, but our lives are being kept so busy with work
that it's hard to maintain focus on the issues.

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