[Campaigns-l] Progressive Thought

George Murray george.murray at gmail.com
Thu Jul 6 19:21:20 UTC 2006


One of my concerns with the current political process is the use of framing
[see : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Framing_(communication_theory) ] and
buzzwords to redefine the problems rather than solve them.

Campaigns Wikia could be a great way to "cut through" the redefinition these
politicians do by taking whatever the latest buzzwords are and having an
up-to-date record of their use and redefinition over time.

Just a thought,
-gmurray

On 7/6/06, Chad Lupkes <chadlupkes at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Something this wiki is going to be able to do is define our terms for the
> ongoing discussion.  And the people who show up and make the edits will do
> the defining instead of paid political operatives looking to spin things one
> direction or the other.
>
> Chad
>
>
> On 7/6/06, Ed Rodgers <ed.rodgers at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > i think you misunderstood my meaning of progressive.
> >
> > by progressive i mean moving beyond the process currently in place by
> > utilizing tools available to us in order to better understand
> > political and governmental decisions.
> >
> > i wasnt saying 'go out and buy every howard zinn book, now!' :)
> >
> > and now we see one of the drawbacks to internet based discussion -
> > comprehension of rhetoric.
> >
> > we are progressing past television advertisements
> > we are progressing to form an online community of thought contributors
> > we are progressing toward a focus on the topics at hand
> > it is a progressive movement, label it wikigressive so that it may not
> > be misconstrued.
> >
> > stay tuned; same discussion to follow on democratic vs democratic.
> >
> > On 7/6/06, Peter Saint-Andre < stpeter at jabber.org> wrote:
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> > > Ed Rodgers wrote:
> > > > I'm very happy as well that boing boing pointed me to this
> > wiki.  It's
> > > > yet another way to further progressive thought using the tools at
> > our
> > > > disposal.
> > >
> > > My sense from the mission statement Jimbo wrote is that we're trying
> > to
> > > open up the political process and make the political debate more
> > > objective -- not that we're trying to further progressive, liberal,
> > > libertarian, conservative, green, socialist, communist (etc.) thought
> > or
> > > ideology or movements.
> > >
> > > Peter
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> --
> Chad Lupkes
> Democracy for Washington
> http://www.democracyforwashington.com
> Progressive Democratic Caucuses of Washington
> http://pdcw.org
>
> If Democrats have a pre-911 view of the world, Republicans have a pre-July
> 4th view of the world.  Go back to King George, shall we?  Not while I'm
> still breathing.
>
> The purpose of a political party is to turn the views and values of its
> members into public policy. - Russel Wallace, Democracy for Wisconsin
>
> Blah, blah, blah!!!  What do we do about it!!
>
> Anyone want a roll-top desk?
> http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/fur/178052982.html
>
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