[Campaigns-l] My 2 cents

alucard996 alucard996 at wi.rr.com
Thu Jul 6 21:22:47 UTC 2006


I absolutely love this idea, even if it is only part of the bigger 
picture. Keep strictly to what each candidate has said (quotes w/ 
source) and done (vote records w/source) and let people decipher the 
information for themselves and/or talk about it somewhere else. I think 
separation of fact and opinion is the biggest hurtle to jump over here 
and the best way to do it is to keep the wiki completely factual - 
things that can be proved without a shadow of a doubt via documented 
evidence.

Maybe there should be some sort of explicit distinction between pages 
that contain fact and ones that contain opinion.

- Dustin

Jamie Baswell wrote:
> I think the wiki portion should be as factual as possible.
>  
> What I'd love to see:
>  
> Name
>  
> Biography
> -- Written by himself or supporters. Not a political history, which 
> will be covered later, but a simple history, where they're from, what 
> schools they attended, generic stuff like that.
>  
> Voting Record
> -- List of voting history, if any.  Each entry can be a simple item 
> number and how they voted.  Each item number can itself be a link to a 
> different Wiki entry containing a summary of the bill and what various 
> candidates have said about it, if anything.
>  
>  
> For example:
>  
> [Bill 90210] - Voted NO
> "I voted no on this because of a rider that required all California 
> residents to replace their cars with penguins." - Mr. Candidate, New 
> York Times interview, 1997
> [Bill OU812] - Voted YES
> "I voted yes on this because I think it's important to save the Alaska 
> Salmon." - Mr. Candidate, Campaign Wikia, 2006
>  
>  
> If you click on [Bill 90210], you should get at least a brief summary 
> of what it was, and Mr. Candidate's comments should be echoed on that 
> page, along with the comments of every other candidate who had 
> anything to say about it.
>  
> So we can see what Mr. Candidate said about it on his page or we can 
> click on the item and see what everyone said about it.
>  
> This list should be a community effort, not just up to the campaigner 
> to post the ones he wants to popularize.  If he voted NO on something 
> 30 years ago and wants to comment about how he would vote YES now if 
> given a chance, he or his supporters can add comments to that effect, 
> but the fact that he did vote NO should remain on the page.
>  
>  
> Other sections could include memorable quotes (with references) links 
> to speeches, debate transcripts, etc.
>  
>  
> The bottom line for me is I would love to be able to see that Joe Blow 
> is running for governor or whatever, then go here and type "Joe Blow" 
> and see a list of things he's voted on in the past, what 
> those things actually were about, anything he had to say about it, etc.
>  
> Comments from random people should be left to the forums.  Comments 
> from opponets should be made on their own page, not here.
>  
> e.g.
> [Bill 90210] - Voted NO
> "I voted no on this because of a rider that required all California 
> residents to replace their cars with penguins." - Mr. Candidate, 1997
> "You voted no because you fear change and you're racist against 
> penguins." - Mr. Opponet, 2006
>  
> The second comment should be deleted, since creating a Debate Wiki 
> would just be ugly.  Mr. Opponet can write a speech about it and link 
> that seperately on his own page if he'd like.
>  
> Similarly:
> [Bill 90210] - Voted NO
> "I voted no on this because of a rider that required all California 
> residents to replace their cars with penguins.  Mr. Opponet has no 
> respect for the rights of modern Californians to not be subjected to 
> the daily abuse of penguins." - Mr. Candidate, 1997
>  
> That should be trimmed down to read as it was before.  The second 
> sentence is not directly relevant to why he voted NO and just invites 
> a mid-wiki flamewar.
>  
> The tighter we keep it to the relevant facts, I think, the better.
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