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[stevebrantnyc at aol.com]

 David and friends,
 
 I posted this article to show this community that there are some "visible", recognized players from the existing system who agree with us that the system is broken. My reason was to suggest we have potential partners in our effort, not to set up an "Okay, they will clean up their act now" attitude here.
 
 I am always looking for leverage points...places where new, potentially transformational ideas can take hold within the existing system. Because, while existing systems cannot transform themselves on their own, they can transform with the addition of transformational information from outside. What I know almost never happens is for a system to be transformed by a separate external system. When that kind of change occurs, it is a revolution not a transformation...a revolution, not an evolution. And, regrettably, in a revolution people usually die. In an evolution, people transform.
 
 My aim is systemic transformation, if at all possible. I really don't want to see the kind of upheaval that would be involved if a revolution were to wind up being the only option for making government work (despite the fact that a revolution is precisely how the United States of America was formed in the first place...and the fact that I happen to live in the Philadelphia suburbs and am very close to the "revolutionary spiritual center" of where that all began 200+ years ago).
 
 Also, as you suggest, David, were the existing group in power to get even a whiff that a revolution were coming, I think the chances of martial law being declared (or some other way of shutting that revolution down fast) happening would be pretty high.
 
 (Hmm...you know, it might be a good thing that Dan Rather has the new "freedom to report in the spirit of Vietnam" job that he now has.)
 
 So...back to my original point...I think it might be useful if this community were to reach out to Gingrich, Foley, and the authors of that new book "The Broken Branch", and join forces with them (as well as with the organizers of http://www.unity08.com )
 
 In my humble opinion, ours should not be an "us or them" initiative, but an "us and them" one. As Gandhi said, "You must be the change you wish to see in the world." And I believe the future we are all seeking to create is one where collaboration is a "first principle" (along with the principle of "abundance of resources").
 
 - Steve
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 On Jul 13, 2006, at 12:09 PM, Slije wrote:
 
 I think it is in error to believe that change is going to come from within the 
 current system. It is interesting to see politicians like this seeing eye to 
 eye, but it is far from the change required in the time frame required. Too 
 little, too late.
 
 But a real change, they concurred, would come only with fresh blood. "The
 correct answer," Gingrich said, "is for the American people to just start
 firing people. This is what the Progressive movement was."
 
 This would work if the American people were in a position to fire anyone, but 
 they are not. It is a runaway government. Voting fraud is so widespread 
 that control has effectively been lost. If that wasn't enough, I believe 
 that if the American people tried to remove the current crime family from the 
 presidency, you would see a nuclear attack or other excuse to impose 
 widespread martial law and suspend the normal functions of government. 
 Americans don't realize how deep we are at this point, or how desperate these 
 people are to maintain their power.
 
 Rarely has a dictator ever been removed by his own people. It generally 
 requires the government to fall or an foreign nation to intervene. Did the 
 Germans remove Hitler even after he became widely unpopular?
 
 Now is indeed the time to bring about change, but I don't see it coming from 
 within the current political system. Rarely does a snake bite itself. 
 Americans have become beggars - we beg our politicians to hear us, yet they 
 go on with their agendas. There is a clear and dangerous disconnect at this 
 point.
 
 Reading about what the politicians are saying and doing, and hoping/begging 
 that they'll fix it for us isn't going to do it.
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