[Campaigns-l] The Ex-Speakers Speak With One Voice on the SorryState of Congress

Stephen Abbott nhprman at comcast.net
Thu Jul 13 21:37:15 UTC 2006


I think this is hysterical, in both senses of the word. It's also
partisanship masquerading as non-partisanship.

If reform is truly going to take place, these two speakers have it right -
it's going to happen by voters demanding it, pure and simple. I don't know
when such a statement became controversial, but apparently it has with some
extremists who don't trust the people or their government.

This sounds like a bizarre conspiracy theory to me, and that's frankly all
we get from the extreme Right and extreme Left in this country. That's also
EXACTLY what's wrong with politics: political hyperbole, vicious personal
attacks and b.s. about issues like sex lives and personal peccadilloes that
distaract a large portion of confused voters into voting with their
emotions, not with their heads.

For the record, we live in a system that doesn't function properly. Not by a
long stretch of the imagination do we live in a totalitarian state. That
would be Cuba, the Worker's Paradise (also a one-party state in which free
speech is suppressed, along with religion and the right to feed one's
family. Check it out.)

And I have to ask Slije: If citizens can't change the political system, why
are we here? Why are you posting to this wikia and to this list AT ALL?

Stephen A.



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From: "Slije" <slije at comcast.net>
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SorryState of Congress


I think it is in error to believe that change is going to come from within
the
current system.  It is interesting to see politicians like this seeing eye
to
eye, but it is far from the change required in the time frame required.  Too
little, too late.

> But a real change, they concurred, would come only with fresh blood. "The
> correct answer," Gingrich said, "is for the American people to just start
> firing people. This is what the Progressive movement was."

This would work if the American people were in a position to fire anyone,
but
they are not.  It is a runaway government.  Voting fraud is so widespread
that control has effectively been lost.  If that wasn't enough, I believe
that if the American people tried to remove the current crime family from
the
presidency, you would see a nuclear attack or other excuse to impose
widespread martial law and suspend the normal functions of government.
Americans don't realize how deep we are at this point, or how desperate
these
people are to maintain their power.

Rarely has a dictator ever been removed by his own people.  It generally
requires the government to fall or an foreign nation to intervene.  Did the
Germans remove Hitler even after he became widely unpopular?

Now is indeed the time to bring about change, but I don't see it coming from
within the current political system.  Rarely does a snake bite itself.
Americans have become beggars - we beg our politicians to hear us, yet they
go on with their agendas.  There is a clear and dangerous disconnect at this
point.

Reading about what the politicians are saying and doing, and hoping/begging
that they'll fix it for us isn't going to do it.





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