[Campaigns-l] Help a good cause and get a look at a wiki drivenletter writing campaign.

Thu Oct 19 18:47:56 UTC 2006

Sorry about that.  I copied my post to my blog.  I'm willing to
continue the conversation there.

http://chadlupkes.blogspot.com

Chad

On 10/19/06, Luis Villa <luis.villa at gmail.com> wrote:
> Can we *please* not waste everyone's time with an abortion discussion?
> Have it in the wiki, or better yet, have it in private email and don't
> waste anyone's public bandwidth on it.
>
> Luis
>
> On 10/19/06, Chad Lupkes <chadlupkes at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Rob,
> >
> > Doesn't the Bible teach that life begins at the first breath?  Isn't
> > part of the mythology that Mary had to decide whether or not to end
> > her pregnancy?  Or at least whether Joseph would stay with Mary until
> > the child was born?
> >
> > If it is against the Western tradition to "kill babies" or (my
> > addition) allow them to be killed, why don't our laws require that all
> > children receive free health care paid for by the community from the
> > moment of conception to the moment of natural death?  Why aren't we do
> > everything in our power to prevent abortions by teaching our teenagers
> > about birth control along side the "just say no" concept that is
> > failing us so badly?
> >
> > I'll tell you why.  Because the Catholic Church teaches that we will
> > pay for our sins in some future eternity, and that any suffering that
> > we have to endure in this life is insignificant.  The same mentality
> > teaches radical Muslims that their reward in a future life will be
> > beyond their imagination if they create suffering for their enemies in
> > this life.
> >
> > It's a lie.  It's a tool used to encourage the domination of the many
> > under the hand of the few.  It's a justification used to force people
> > to tolerate the intolerable, to allow the inexcusable and to
> > accomplish the unthinkable.
> >
> > We have one world. This one.  We have one life to have an influence
> > over.  This one.  The Bible tells us to be "fruitful and multiply".
> > It does not tell us to be fruitful and multiply to the point that our
> > population numbers make life unbearable and unsustainable.  G-d set
> > the rules of the game, and has granted us with free will to play the
> > game.  If we destroy the game board, G-d is not going to save us.  He
> > will wait a few million years and try again with a new species.  He
> > has all the time in the Universe.  We don't.
> >
> > I will agree to a 100% ban on abortions when we have completely
> > eliminated unwanted pregnancy from the earth.  If we could work
> > together, we could do both.  Big "IF", isn't it.
> >
> > Chad Lupkes
> > Volunteer Admin - Campaigns Wikia
> >
> > On 10/19/06, CH Rob J King <kuriosiesuschristos at abidinglifephoenix.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Jennifer,
> > >
> > > When I first read your Wiki-campaign e-mail, I thought what a wonderful idea
> > > to seek multi-partisanship!  Indeed, issues such as the Environment, a
> > > Living Wage and the War in Iraq are obviously not just Republican or
> > > Democrat or Independent issues because they affect everyone (no clean water
> > > in the Desert SouthWest = Environmental catastrophe!).
> > >
> > > Concerning the killing of babies, however, a practice condemned throughout
> > > the history of the Western legal tradition (from the 4th century under the
> > > Roman Emperor Constantine, throughout the history of Europe and N. America
> > > and well into the 20th century prior to 1972), this is an issue where no
> > > common ground can be found.
> > >
> > > For example, the Catholic Church, an organization that has 1 billion members
> > > firmly condemns this practice as an intrinsically evil act.  Similarly,
> > > Pentecostal Christianity, a type of religious expression with 500 million+
> > > members, also firmly condemns this practice as murder.  In that the United
> > > States with a population of only 300 million, and by a vote of only 5-4 in
> > > Roe v. Wade has wrongly determined that babies deserve no legal protection
> > > to live, the burden of proof now lies with the United States of America in
> > > demonstrating why the lives of babies should not be protected.  Indeed, even
> > > Islam and Buddhism, two other major world religions have similar
> > > prohibitions against taking the lives of babies.
> > >
> > > Sincerely,
> > >
> > > Rob J. King, Republican
> > >
> > > cc:  Randall Terry, Pro-Life Activist
> > >
> > >      Ken Mehlman, Chair of the Republican National Committee
> > >
> > >      Dave Plummer, Coalition of Spirit-Filled Churches
> > >
> > >      Sr. Jacinta Krecek, OSF, Diocese of South Bend/Ft. Wayne
> > >
> > >
> > > CH Rob J. King, M.Div., Th.M., Ph.D. (ABD*)
> > > Chaplain, 345th, AR-MEDCOM
> > > Professor of Bible and Christian Ministry Grand Canyon University-Online
> > > Abiding Life Christian Ministries--Phoenix
> > > http://abidinglifephoenix.com/default.aspx
> > > kuriosiesuschristos at abidinglifephoenix.com
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: "Jennifer M." <jenniferforunity at gmail.com>
> > > Reply-To: campaigns-l at wikia.com
> > > To: campaigns-l at wikia.com
> > > Subject: [Campaigns-l] Help a good cause and get a look at a wiki
> > > drivenletter writing campaign.
> > > Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 17:34:06 -0700
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi guys,
> > > I know this isn't totally on topic for this list, but you guys are totally
> > > tapped into wikis and it seemed like you might be interested.  I've been
> > > working on a letter writing campaign for the last 40 hours and a wiki turned
> > > out to be the most useful part of it... and it's taught me that it maybe
> > > would be good to have some templates laying around a wiki to make something
> > > like this easier to throw together.  You might be curious even if you're not
> > > interested in the political cause itself just because this might become a
> > > standard part of campaigns wikia as it grows and evolves.  Anyway, I'll cut
> > > to the political blurb now :-)
> > >
> > > ...
> > >
> > > Harry Welty is a Congressional Candidate running to represent Duluth,
> > > Minnesota. He's also affiliated himself with Unity08 and the Unity Movement,
> > > a multipartisan movement with the goal of getting national attention off
> > > divisive issues like abortion and onto issues that will seriously affect the
> > > welfare of Americans for generations to come, like the massive National Debt
> > > that threatens to fiscally cripple the U.S. just in time for our young
> > > people to inherit it.
> > >
> > > If this is the first time you've heard about Harry Welty you can get a quick
> > > one page summary with links to his blog and his campaign website at this
> > > website:
> > >
> > > http://unitysupporters.com/wiki/index.php?title=Harry_Welty
> > >
> > > Harry was been told by the Duluth News Tribune and the local public
> > > television station WDSE PBS-8 that he can't debate because he doesn't belong
> > > to a political party that fielded a candidate who won at least 5% of the
> > > vote in the previous election. 14 years ago Harry Welty ran as an *unknown*
> > > independent against Oberstar and took 7% of the vote. Since then he's served
> > > on the Duluth School Board and been a columnist for The Reader Weekly. *So
> > > far* that doesn't matter to the people in charge of the debates (but we're
> > > trying to change that).
> > >
> > > The decision makers seem to care about political machinery instead of
> > > people, parties instead of candidates. It's not right. Harry deserves a
> > > chance in the debates. Please forward this email to everyone you know who
> > > might be interested. Then go to the link below and learn about emails and
> > > phone calls you can make to try to help Harry get chance in the debates:
> > >
> > > http://unitysupporters.com/wiki/index.php?title=Letter_Campaign_For_Harry_Welty
> > >
> > > Thanks for taking the time to read this, thanks for taking the time to pass
> > > this on, and thanks for visiting the link above and doing something to help
> > > Harry. Please do it fast. The debates are on Friday, October 20, 2006 and
> > > after that point forwarding this or sending email won't be very useful.
> > >
> > >
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