[Campaigns-l] Enemies of democracy
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I think it's a mistake to assume the supremacy of anything but nature. We need higher quality politicians, and an end to many taboos, including our fear of racism and inequality. That's just immature.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "CH Rob J King" <kuriosiesuschristos at abidinglifephoenix.com>
> To: campaigns-l at wikia.com
> Subject: [Campaigns-l] Enemies of democracy
> Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 12:13:24 -0400
>
> New Friends and new adversaries:
>
> Thank you for the healthy debate. Just to let you know, democracy at its
> root, is built upon political dialogue. To limit dialogue (or even to
> try to censor it by confining it to an "on-line ghetto" of a blog that no
> one will read) is simply anti-democratic.
>
> I am a Clerk of Elections for this Nov. 7th, will be working with 3 other
> Republicans and 6 Democrats in a non-partisan setting, all to insure that
> our democratic process is done freely, not coerced, free of corruption,
> and with the opportunity for all political voices to be represented.
> Contrary to the "Jim Crow" laws of the pre-Civil Rights south that tried
> to take away the right to vote, so also are many in this forum equally
> trying to take away the rights of their fellow citizens. In our manual,
> it even states several times, "Never send a voter away or deny a voter
> the right to vote for any reason." (Poll Worker Manual, Pinellas County,
> Florida, p.49). By trying to limit freedom of speech, the ugly side of
> our society is showing its true colors . . . whether it's Republicans
> limiting due process for terror suspects (even allowing torture) or
> Democrats making all opposition to abortion a crime, the enemies of true
> democracy are within each respective political party. You know who you
> each are . . .
>
> Blessings,
>
> Rob J. King, American CH Rob J. King, M.Div., Th.M., Ph.D.
> (ABD*)Chaplain, 345th, AR-MEDCOMProfessor
> of Bible and Christian Ministry Grand Canyon University-Online
> Abiding Life Christian Ministries--Phoenix & Tampa Bay
> Ministry Home Page: http://abidinglifephoenix.com/default.aspxMinistry
> E-Mail: kuriosiesuschristos at abidinglifephoenix.com "Be without fear in
> the face of your enemies. Be brave and upright that God may love
> thee. Speak the truth always even if it leads to your death.
> Safeguard the
> helpless and do no wrong." --The vow of a Christian Knight, Kingdom of
> Heaven http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0320661/
>
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>
> From: Christopher Rivera <car9 at students.uwf.edu>
> Reply-To: campaigns-l at wikia.com
> To: campaigns-l at wikia.com
> Subject: Re: continued inflammatory and off-topic responses to
> constructiveemails[was Re: [Campaigns-l] blog efficiency in politics:
> theFinland case]
> Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 09:48:39 -0500
>
> Well Luis see how far we americans can get without an international
> economy I would wager to bet that atleast half of the goods you use
> in your household are from other countries...one thing I will never
> understand is how conservatives insist that patriotism means you must
> be against an international economy and aid to support the growth of
> nations to endure and participate in that community.
> -Christopher Rivera
>
> On Oct 23, 2006, at 9:28 AM, CH Rob J King wrote:
>
> Luis, Other than Spanish politicains who like Opus Dei, Irish who
> like U2 and Tony Blair and co, I generally like insulting
> Europeans . . . [IMAGE] . . . from "Freedom Fries" to not wanting
> American Forces serving under the U.N., I am about as red-neck
> politically as you can get . . . NOT RACIST, but redneck . . . In
> other words, the days of European bankers living off of the sweat
> & blood of my African Christian brothers and sisters is drawing
> to a close . . . Bill Gates, Bono & George W. , , , PACEM, Rob J.
> King, Republican
>
>
>
>
> CH Rob J. King, M.Div., Th.M., Ph.D. (ABD*)Chaplain, 345th,
> AR-MEDCOMProfessor of Bible and Christian Ministry Grand Canyon
> University-Online Abiding Life Christian
> Ministries--Phoenix & Tampa Bay
> Ministry Home Page: http://abidinglifephoenix.com/default.aspxMinistry
> E-Mail: kuriosiesuschristos at abidinglifephoenix.com "Be without
> fear in the face of your enemies. Be brave and upright that God
> may love thee. Speak the truth always even if it leads to your
> death. Safeguard the helpless and do no wrong." --The vow of a
> Christian Knight, Kingdom of Heaven
> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0320661/
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------
>
> From: "Luis Villa" <luis at tieguy.org>
> Reply-To: campaigns-l at wikia.com
> To: campaigns-l at wikia.com
> Subject: continued inflammatory and off-topic responses to
> constructive emails[was Re: [Campaigns-l] blog efficiency in
> politics: the Finland case]
> Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 15:25:30 -0400
> >Is this is going to be your stock response to every European
> who
> >posts
> >constructive emails about the use of technology in politics,
> Rob? Or
> >is this a one-time unconstructive and off-topic response? If
> it
> >isn't
> >one-time, I would again ask you to find some place else to
> insult
> >people who are trying to constructively reach the goals of
> this
> >list.
> >
> >[Of course, I'm happy to be wrong about this being off-topic
> and/or
> >unconstructive; perhaps there is something here I've
> missed.]
> >
> >Luis (also wondering how many people have unsubscribed over
> the past
> >few days)
> >
> >On 10/22/06, CH Rob J King
> ><kuriosiesuschristos at abidinglifephoenix.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Attila, Do Europeans even still exist??? After all, with
> killing
> >>off y'all's babies in the womb, killing off the sick and
> dying
> >>(i.e. the Netherlands with its euthanasia laws!) and now
> lesbians
> >>wanting to de-fertlilize themselves, how are you going to
> still be
> >>a people group??? My guess is that Europe will simply
> become an
> >>extension of Islam in the coming years . . .
> >>
> >>Please see the Pope's article "Europe and Its Discontents"
> for a
> >>"scholar's scholar" view on the dissolution of Europe . . .
> >>http://www.firstthings.com/ftissues/ft0601/articles/benedict.html
> >>Remember that Pope Benedict XVI is a highly trained scholar
> who
> >>would teach at schools such as Oxford, Cambridge, Harvard,
> Yale,
> >>etc. even if he were not the Pope (i.e. his academic mettel
> alone
> >>would grant him a chaired professorship in the elite
> universities
> >>of Europe and N. America
> >>
> >>Blessings,
> >>
> >>Rob J. King, Ph.D. (ABD*) (trained in theology at Duke
> University
> >>and the University of Notre Dame)
> >>
> >>
> >>CH Rob J. King, M.Div., Th.M., Ph.D. (ABD*)
> >>Chaplain, 345th, AR-MEDCOM
> >>Professor of Bible and Christian Ministry Grand Canyon
> >>University-Online
> >>Abiding Life Christian Ministries--Phoenix & Tampa Bay
> >>Ministry Home Page:
> http://abidinglifephoenix.com/default.aspx
> >>Ministry E-Mail: kuriosiesuschristos at abidinglifephoenix.com
> >>
> >>"Be without fear in the face of your enemies. Be brave and
> upright
> >>that God may love thee. Speak the truth always even if it
> leads to
> >>your death. Safeguard the helpless and do no wrong." --The
> vow of
> >>a Christian Knight, Kingdom of Heaven
> >>http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0320661/
> >>
> >>
> >> ________________________________
> >From: "Attila Csordas" <attilacsordas at gmail.com>
> >>Reply-To: campaigns-l at wikia.com
> >>To: campaigns-l at wikia.com
> >>Subject: [Campaigns-l] blog efficiency in politics: the
> Finland
> >>case
> >>Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 17:40:35 +0200
> >>
> >>
> >>Hi everybody,
> >>
> >>An interesting story about the political power of a
> Wordpress blog
> >>focused on one campaign:
> >>http://wordpress.com/blog/2006/10/19/blog-activism/
> >>
> >>"We just got this note from Tina in Finland, who agreed to
> let us
> >>blog it here. Regardless of how you may feel about the
> issue, it's
> >>a pretty powerful story. Thanks to the fantastic
> flexibility of
> >>WordPress, I was able to make a campaign site supporting
> the
> >>legalization of fertility treatments for single women and
> lesbians
> >>in Finland that quite possibly was a major factor in the
> law
> >>passing. (Treatments had been available before, but had not
> been
> >>explicitly legal, and the conservative parties had
> introduced a
> >>motion to make them illegal) The site shot up in popularity
> and we
> >>were sent statements by all kinds of politicians, including
> EU
> >>reps, ministers, and members of parliament. In the end,
> treatments
> >>were legalized by a 22 vote margin (83-105) which was far
> more than
> >>anyone dared to predict." ....
> >>
> >>
> >>It would be terrific, if there were more cooperations and
> >>intersections between blogs and wikis concerning real
> participatory
> >>politics.
> >>
> >>Cheers, Attila Csordas,
> >>http://pimm.wordpress.com/
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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