From ligra10 at hotmail.com Fri Sep 1 14:43:19 2006 From: ligra10 at hotmail.com (Liliane Grando) Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2006 14:43:19 +0000 Subject: [Campaigns-l] wiki-politica Message-ID: j? fiz a minha inscri??o para fazer parte desse grupo de colaboradores da wiki-politica. qual ? o proximo passo? _________________________________________________________________ Insta-le j? o Windows Live Messenger. A nova gera??o do messenger. http://get.live.com/messenger/overview From guidinhaalmeida at hotmail.com Fri Sep 1 14:57:34 2006 From: guidinhaalmeida at hotmail.com (Ingrid Almeida) Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2006 14:57:34 +0000 Subject: [Campaigns-l] (sem assunto) Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.wikia.com/pipermail/campaigns-l/attachments/20060901/0db1f09e/attachment.html From deane at jessep.co.nz Sat Sep 2 12:10:08 2006 From: deane at jessep.co.nz (deane at jessep.co.nz) Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 00:10:08 +1200 (NZST) Subject: [Campaigns-l] wiki-politica In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <52235.121.72.64.220.1157199008.squirrel@s3.eroute.net> Rough Translation from portugese... can anyone help this person?: I have already made my registration to be part of this group of wiki-politica collaborators. Which is nearby step? This is not all that accurate so could someone else pick this up. Deane > j? fiz a minha inscri??o para fazer parte desse grupo de colaboradores da > wiki-politica. qual ? o proximo passo? > > _________________________________________________________________ > Insta-le j? o Windows Live Messenger. A nova gera??o do messenger. > http://get.live.com/messenger/overview > > _______________________________________________ > Campaigns-l mailing list > Campaigns-l at wikia.com > http://lists.wikia.com/mailman/listinfo/campaigns-l > From deane at jessep.co.nz Sat Sep 2 12:10:49 2006 From: deane at jessep.co.nz (deane at jessep.co.nz) Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 00:10:49 +1200 (NZST) Subject: [Campaigns-l] (sem assunto) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <54707.121.72.64.220.1157199049.squirrel@s3.eroute.net> Ahh Brazilian, good luck with that. Deane >

Creio que, hoje em dia, o maior problema pol?tico que encontramos ? a > "ignor?ncia pol?tica", o povo brasileiro, em geral, n?o sabe em quem est? > votando, n?o conhece os candidatos, e entende menos ainda sobre a > pol?tica. Precisamos achar uma maneira de conscientiz?-los sobre a > import?ncia do voto e do conhecimento das metas de cada candidato, > principalmente os que ir?o se eleger. Afinal, somos n?s os fiscais destes > governos. Falta interesse e participa??o!

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Creio que, hoje em dia, o maior problema pol?tico que encontramos ? > a > > "ignor?ncia pol?tica", o povo brasileiro, em geral, n?o sabe em quem > est? > > votando, n?o conhece os candidatos, e entende menos ainda sobre a > > pol?tica. Precisamos achar uma maneira de conscientiz?-los sobre a > > import?ncia do voto e do conhecimento das metas de cada candidato, > > principalmente os que ir?o se eleger. Afinal, somos n?s os fiscais > destes > > governos. Falta interesse e participa??o!

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URL: http://lists.wikia.com/pipermail/campaigns-l/attachments/20060902/b7407b2f/attachment.html From chadlupkes at gmail.com Sat Sep 2 15:03:11 2006 From: chadlupkes at gmail.com (Chad Lupkes) Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2006 08:03:11 -0700 Subject: [Campaigns-l] wiki-politica In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <801553ab0609020803v4dc38cb3q66966bc660f60628@mail.gmail.com> Traduzido em babelfish.altavista.com Hi Liliane, Embora eu n?o possa falar o portugu?s, eu posso usar o babelfish. Eu espero que este venha atrav?s da aprova??o. Agradecimentos para juntar nossos esfor?os! Est? aqui uma liga??o ? p?gina da tradu??o no local principal: http://campaigns.wikia.com/wiki/Campaigns_Wikia:Languages/Portuguese Traduzir estas p?ginas do n?cleo ajudaria realmente. Se voc? necessitar o aux?lio, contate por favor os dois usu?rios que s?o os administradores para as campanhas Wikia do portugu?s, Brunoayres & Iuki. Boa vinda! Chad Lupkes Seattle, Washington, USA ---- Hi Liliane, Although I can't speak Portuguese, I can use babelfish. I hope this comes across ok. Thanks for joining our efforts! Here is a link to the Translation page on the main site: http://campaigns.wikia.com/wiki/Campaigns_Wikia:Languages/Portuguese Translating these core pages would really help. If you need assistance, please contact the two users who are the administrators for the Portuguese Campaigns Wikia: Brunoayres Iuki ? Welcome! Chad Lupkes Seattle, Washington, USA On 9/1/06, Liliane Grando wrote: > > j? fiz a minha inscri??o para fazer parte desse grupo de colaboradores da > wiki-politica. qual ? o proximo passo? > > _________________________________________________________________ > Insta-le j? o Windows Live Messenger. A nova gera??o do messenger. > http://get.live.com/messenger/overview > > _______________________________________________ > Campaigns-l mailing list > Campaigns-l at wikia.com > http://lists.wikia.com/mailman/listinfo/campaigns-l > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.wikia.com/pipermail/campaigns-l/attachments/20060902/d2dc5f58/attachment.html From chadlupkes at gmail.com Sat Sep 2 15:35:54 2006 From: chadlupkes at gmail.com (Chad Lupkes) Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2006 08:35:54 -0700 Subject: [Campaigns-l] (sem assunto) In-Reply-To: <2ec8a4cd0609020622x4dbb788fia15297af430eeae6@mail.gmail.com> References: <54707.121.72.64.220.1157199049.squirrel@s3.eroute.net> <2ec8a4cd0609020622x4dbb788fia15297af430eeae6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <801553ab0609020835y45ae4b2dx6da86fa16fbfe6c7@mail.gmail.com> Hello Richard & Ingrid, In the United States, one of the main NGO's that has taken on the ignorance of the general population is the League of Women Voters. http://www.lwv.org/ The local chapters of the LWV put out "They Represent You" booklets that list all the elected and major appointed representatives for that city or county, and instructions about how to register to vote as well as details on how to ensure our votes are counted. That sounds similar to what you are trying to start. I know that much of Brazil is urbanized and that the Internet has a pretty strong presence. According to Internet World Stats, 14.1% of the population has access to the Net. Orkut.com is a popular service in Brazil, so that might be a place to do outreach. Political ideology aside, the model of Democracy for America and other populist organizations could be followed anywhere in the world where elections determine leaders. Do you have anything like that in Brazil? Looks like Wikia doesn't have a mailing list for the Portugese language * campanhas* yet. I think all you have to do is ask. Chad On 9/2/06, Ricardo Moraleida wrote: > > Translation: > > "I believe these days our major political problem is the so called > "political ignorance". The brazilian people don't know for whom they're > voting, don't know the candidates and understand even less about politics. > We need to find a way to teach them about the importance of voting and > knowing the goals of each candidate, especially the ones with real chances > of bein elected. After all, we're the inspectors of these governments. It's > all about the lack of interest and participation." > > > now... i've joined this mailing list... but i don't really see any > discussions going on... Where do we stand? > > to present myself: My name is Ricardo Moraleida, i've graduated from > college last year and i work as a PR assistant at a local industry in Belo > Horizonte, Brazil. I've joined this mailing list because of a NGO project > i'm starting wich will deal with that so called "political ignorance". My > goal is to compile an online database for the citizens of Belo Horizonte, in > wich they'll be able to search for their representatives and learn about > what they're doing locally. That's basically it... > > does anyone know any project like this?? > > tks! > > > Creio que, hoje em dia, o maior problema pol?tico que encontramos ? a > "ignor?ncia pol?tica", o povo brasileiro, em geral, n?o sabe em quem est? > votando, n?o conhece os candidatos, e entende menos ainda sobre a > pol?tica. Precisamos achar uma maneira de conscientiz?-los sobre a > import?ncia do voto e do conhecimento das metas de cada candidato, > principalmente os que ir?o se eleger. Afinal, somos n?s os fiscais destes > governos. Falta interesse e participa??o! > > > On 9/2/06, deane at jessep.co.nz < deane at jessep.co.nz> wrote: > > > > Ahh Brazilian, good luck with that. > > > > Deane > > > > >

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Creio que, hoje em dia, o maior problema pol?tico que encontramos > > ? a > > > "ignor?ncia pol?tica", o povo brasileiro, em geral, n?o sabe em quem > > est? > > > votando, n?o conhece os candidatos, e entende menos ainda sobre a > > > pol?tica. Precisamos achar uma maneira de conscientiz?-los sobre > > a > > > import?ncia do voto e do conhecimento das metas de cada candidato, > > > principalmente os que ir?o se eleger. Afinal, somos n?s os fiscais > > destes > > > governos. Falta interesse e participa??o!

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Torpedo Messenger- Envie mensagens do computador para o > > > celular da galera > > target="_top">Descubra como aqui! > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Campaigns-l mailing list > > > Campaigns-l at wikia.com > > > http://lists.wikia.com/mailman/listinfo/campaigns-l > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Campaigns-l mailing list > > Campaigns-l at wikia.com > > http://lists.wikia.com/mailman/listinfo/campaigns-l > > > > > > -- > Ricardo Moraleida > --------------------------------------------------------------- > moraleida at gmail.com > http://moraleida.wordpress.com > http://www.flickr.com/photos/ricardomoraleida/ > > _______________________________________________ > Campaigns-l mailing list > Campaigns-l at wikia.com > http://lists.wikia.com/mailman/listinfo/campaigns-l > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.wikia.com/pipermail/campaigns-l/attachments/20060902/df598089/attachment.html From elianedo at uol.com.br Sat Sep 2 17:11:38 2006 From: elianedo at uol.com.br (Eliane Diniz de Oliveira) Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2006 14:11:38 -0300 Subject: [Campaigns-l] (sem assunto) References: <54707.121.72.64.220.1157199049.squirrel@s3.eroute.net> <2ec8a4cd0609020622x4dbb788fia15297af430eeae6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <002601c6ceb2$dcfff3e0$2822ddc8@uol.com.br> Hi Ricardo, There is a group named Reforma Brasil that is connected to your proposals, I guess. Please, give a look on www.reformabrasil,com. Besides that, there is the Transpar?ncia Brasil www.transparenciabrasi.org.br with lots of information about the candidates. Eliane. ----- Original Message ----- From: Ricardo Moraleida To: campaigns-l at wikia.com Sent: Saturday, September 02, 2006 10:22 AM Subject: Re: [Campaigns-l] (sem assunto) Translation: "I believe these days our major political problem is the so called "political ignorance". The brazilian people don't know for whom they're voting, don't know the candidates and understand even less about politics. We need to find a way to teach them about the importance of voting and knowing the goals of each candidate, especially the ones with real chances of bein elected. After all, we're the inspectors of these governments. It's all about the lack of interest and participation." now... i've joined this mailing list... but i don't really see any discussions going on... Where do we stand? to present myself: My name is Ricardo Moraleida, i've graduated from college last year and i work as a PR assistant at a local industry in Belo Horizonte, Brazil. I've joined this mailing list because of a NGO project i'm starting wich will deal with that so called "political ignorance". My goal is to compile an online database for the citizens of Belo Horizonte, in wich they'll be able to search for their representatives and learn about what they're doing locally. That's basically it... does anyone know any project like this?? tks! Creio que, hoje em dia, o maior problema pol?tico que encontramos ? a "ignor?ncia pol?tica", o povo brasileiro, em geral, n?o sabe em quem est? votando, n?o conhece os candidatos, e entende menos ainda sobre a pol?tica. Precisamos achar uma maneira de conscientiz?-los sobre a import?ncia do voto e do conhecimento das metas de cada candidato, principalmente os que ir?o se eleger. Afinal, somos n?s os fiscais destes governos. Falta interesse e participa??o! On 9/2/06, deane at jessep.co.nz < deane at jessep.co.nz> wrote: Ahh Brazilian, good luck with that. Deane >

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Please help spread the word in Portugal, Brazil and any other areas that use Portuguese as a primary language, and for people who speak Portuguese in other countries. N?s temos agora uma lista enviando para o portugu?s! Por favor a ajuda espalhou a palavra em Portugal, em Brasil e em todas as outras ?reas que usarem o portugu?s como uma l?ngua preliminar, e para os povos que falam o portugu?s em outros pa?ses. And here is the link to the Portuguese Campaigns Wikia: http://campanhas.wikia.com/ Chad ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Angela beesley at gmail.com On 9/5/06, Jimmy Wales wrote: > Can we make a mailing list for Portuguese Campaigns-wikia? > I've just created this at http://lists.wikia.com/mailman/admin/campanhas-l Angela. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Would be great if this section was a part of the wiki too. Janet From chadlupkes at gmail.com Mon Sep 18 21:47:41 2006 From: chadlupkes at gmail.com (Chad Lupkes) Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 14:47:41 -0700 Subject: [Campaigns-l] digital rights In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <801553ab0609181447mc146a1ehbdc6388fa74c1a5a@mail.gmail.com> It shouldn't be. What is the page. Chad On 9/18/06, Janet Hawtin wrote: > > Just a ping re digital rights is still locked. > Would be great if this section was a part of the wiki too. > > Janet > _______________________________________________ > Campaigns-l mailing list > Campaigns-l at wikia.com > http://lists.wikia.com/mailman/listinfo/campaigns-l > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.wikia.com/pipermail/campaigns-l/attachments/20060918/d65d5320/attachment.html From lucychili at gmail.com Mon Sep 18 21:55:36 2006 From: lucychili at gmail.com (Janet Hawtin) Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 07:25:36 +0930 Subject: [Campaigns-l] digital rights In-Reply-To: <801553ab0609181447mc146a1ehbdc6388fa74c1a5a@mail.gmail.com> References: <801553ab0609181447mc146a1ehbdc6388fa74c1a5a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 9/19/06, Chad Lupkes wrote: > > It shouldn't be. What is the page. > > Chad http://campaigns.wikia.com/wiki/Digital_Rights From chadlupkes at gmail.com Mon Sep 18 22:00:20 2006 From: chadlupkes at gmail.com (Chad Lupkes) Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 15:00:20 -0700 Subject: [Campaigns-l] digital rights In-Reply-To: References: <801553ab0609181447mc146a1ehbdc6388fa74c1a5a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <801553ab0609181500w759de2eeof4ae885ffa4bc74d@mail.gmail.com> Ok, the page is only protected against people who have not signed in. If you're signed in, you should be able to edit it. We had problems with IP addresses posting spam links and links to hate sites. Digital rights seems to be a hot topic for some people. If you think we should remove the protection, we can do that, but we'll need to keep a close eye on it. Chad On 9/18/06, Janet Hawtin wrote: > > On 9/19/06, Chad Lupkes wrote: > > > > It shouldn't be. What is the page. > > > > Chad > > http://campaigns.wikia.com/wiki/Digital_Rights > _______________________________________________ > Campaigns-l mailing list > Campaigns-l at wikia.com > http://lists.wikia.com/mailman/listinfo/campaigns-l > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Janet janet From chadlupkes at gmail.com Mon Sep 18 22:18:44 2006 From: chadlupkes at gmail.com (Chad Lupkes) Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 15:18:44 -0700 Subject: [Campaigns-l] digital rights In-Reply-To: References: <801553ab0609181447mc146a1ehbdc6388fa74c1a5a@mail.gmail.com> <801553ab0609181500w759de2eeof4ae885ffa4bc74d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <801553ab0609181518o10b55523l9dd80337ef5460cf@mail.gmail.com> Use [[Template:Tabs]] and [[Template:Tabs/close]] to structure the page, and we'll see where it goes. Chad On 9/18/06, Janet Hawtin wrote: > > ok great. > > perhaps if we could structure the page the way that some other topics have > done > to include perspectives and questions about digital rights it might be > easier? > what is a good page to use as a model? > > the page was originally divided into pro creators rights and pro > consumers rights. > this I think caused the edit wars because some groups identify as > groups which want to develop policies which support authors and > consumers but perhaps not by providing control to the multinational > publishing interests. > the multinational media publishers are promoting DMCA and similar > systems which position themselves as the primary beneficiaries at the > expense of both creators and consumers. > > digital rights is very much an international issue, particularly now > with wipo pushing through broadcast treaty drafts without consent from > many nations, the current page sits in the domestic list. > > digital ACCESS rights are very important for people who want a > read/write culture. > the current page is scoped to only consider DRM or basically to frame > thw whole debate around a read only culture. > > Janet > > janet > _______________________________________________ > Campaigns-l mailing list > Campaigns-l at wikia.com > http://lists.wikia.com/mailman/listinfo/campaigns-l > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Ingmar From white.james.l at gmail.com Tue Sep 19 01:45:39 2006 From: white.james.l at gmail.com (James White) Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 21:45:39 -0400 Subject: [Campaigns-l] digital rights In-Reply-To: <801553ab0609181518o10b55523l9dd80337ef5460cf@mail.gmail.com> References: <801553ab0609181447mc146a1ehbdc6388fa74c1a5a@mail.gmail.com> <801553ab0609181500w759de2eeof4ae885ffa4bc74d@mail.gmail.com> <801553ab0609181518o10b55523l9dd80337ef5460cf@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7e4972e0609181845o2e9ce6d8k797ac26c4b9c1aa5@mail.gmail.com> I unprotected the page because I found it rather silly to have it still protected 2 months after the end of an edit war. If we need to move/delete tab pages, we can do that, so just organize it in a rational way and it'll be swell. Jim -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://lists.wikia.com/pipermail/campaigns-l/attachments/20060918/16702654/attachment.html From lucychili at gmail.com Tue Sep 19 02:51:35 2006 From: lucychili at gmail.com (Janet Hawtin) Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 12:21:35 +0930 Subject: [Campaigns-l] digital rights In-Reply-To: <7e4972e0609181845o2e9ce6d8k797ac26c4b9c1aa5@mail.gmail.com> References: <801553ab0609181447mc146a1ehbdc6388fa74c1a5a@mail.gmail.com> <801553ab0609181500w759de2eeof4ae885ffa4bc74d@mail.gmail.com> <801553ab0609181518o10b55523l9dd80337ef5460cf@mail.gmail.com> <7e4972e0609181845o2e9ce6d8k797ac26c4b9c1aa5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Thanks folks Ive done a first slicing of it and tried to put a section of useful dialogue in each pocket. IANAL so it probably needs refining re wording and there will be many groups who arent represented there yet. w00t. Janet From anthonyscott at comcen.com.au Tue Sep 19 05:17:24 2006 From: anthonyscott at comcen.com.au (Anthony Scott) Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 15:17:24 +1000 Subject: [Campaigns-l] vector logo In-Reply-To: <20060918144408.282950@gmx.net> References: <20060918144408.282950@gmx.net> Message-ID: <1158643044.5042.6.camel@localhost> On Mon, 2006-09-18 at 16:44 +0200, VirtualOffice at gmx.net wrote: > Hi! :) > > Unfortunately I have sooo much to do at this time... but i have try yesterday to rebuild the cw logo as a scalable vector graphic. Vector logo's are always fine, its no proplem to make it very large or little, always the same qualitiy. You can found it here at the end of the page: > > http://kampagnen.wikia.com/wiki/Kampagnen-Wikia:Logo > > Have a good day (and not so much work like me ;), > > Ingmar I really like your latest efforts Ingmar, they have captured what Wikia Campaigns are all about. Well done. Regards, Ningbojoe. > _______________________________________________ > Campaigns-l mailing list > Campaigns-l at wikia.com > http://lists.wikia.com/mailman/listinfo/campaigns-l > -- Anthony I. Scott. Dip. Teach.(Primary);B.Educ.(Deakin) Email:anthonyscott at comcen.com.au From cmaglaque at hotmail.com Tue Sep 19 08:33:12 2006 From: cmaglaque at hotmail.com (Chad Maglaque) Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 01:33:12 -0700 Subject: [Campaigns-l] Open Call For State Page Moderators In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Folks, Wanted to let you know that More Perfect is launching a new program to enable passionate individuals that share our mission to be moderators for each of the State Home Pages on moreperfect.org State Moderators are responsible for keeping the state home page current, moderating user edits, and maintaining relationships with local state policy groups and site users (see detailed description below). If you, or someone you know, are interested in this opportunity check out more details at: www.moreperfect.org/jobs.html best, Chad Maglaque Managing Editor ph: 206.390.0518 email: chad at moreperfect.org more people. more ideas. more perfect. http://www.moreperfect.org ********************************* Position: State Moderator Date Posted: Ongoing Type: Unpaid Volunteer/Intern Start: Immediately Length of Position: 6 Months, Ongoing Openings: Currently Recruiting For All States Hours: About 10 Hours/Week ===Job Qualifications=== In short, we are seeking superheroes intent on changing the world by empowering one citizen at a time. You must play well with others, no matter what their political leanings. Must not be afraid of technology, and must know how to sling the most basic HTML (or be willing to subject yourself to a grueling 10-minute tutorial). Must be capable of balancing 3 different finger foods on a flimsy paper plate and a beverage all while not letting the person you're speaking with know that your mouth is full. Must not faint in front of small crowds. Must read newspapers and political blogs instinctively. Must be self-motivated, creative, and interested in local politics. We'll teach you the rest. ===Job Description=== State Moderators are responsible for creating/editing the State Home Pages (e.g. Washington State Page) on More Perfect. Additionally, you will be tasked with finding new and creative content, seeking out groups and individuals who might be interested posting new issues on the More Perfect site, and generally promoting the use of More Perfect to mere citizens. You will spend time creating new content pages, monitoring and moderating user edits, and thinking way too much about local politics, law and the creation of policy. ===Why It's Worth It=== We are a new-concept web portal that seeks to involve every-day people in the process of politics. You will be seen as a pillar of your community (OK, maybe not right away), and have the ability to speak with authority and impress your friends. You will be able to call important people in your community and cause them to believe that you are worth talking to. Through all of this, you'll meet many interesting people involved in the local political scene and increase your understanding of the inner-workings of politics. We'll even write you a glowing letter of recommendation which you can either burn or frame, depending upon your experience. What are you waiting for? Apply now! ===How To Apply=== - Write us a clever 400-word email, explaining why you want the position (just don't be too clever-by-half) and for which state. -Email your resume to jobs at moreperfect.org ===Positions Available=== We are currently recruiting for all States. Larger States may have more than one moderator. From VirtualOffice at gmx.net Wed Sep 20 13:14:37 2006 From: VirtualOffice at gmx.net (VirtualOffice at gmx.net) Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 15:14:37 +0200 Subject: [Campaigns-l] logo's and more... :) Message-ID: <20060920131437.299170@gmx.net> Hi Ningbojoe, Chad, Jim (James), Janet, Morten, Deane and all, > anthonyscott at comcen.com.au wrote: > > I really like your latest efforts Ingmar, they have captured what Wikia > Campaigns are all about. Well done. > Regards, > Ningbojoe. Thankyou. But unfortunately I'm a perfectionist :) This is why the last two vector logo's can not be the end of the way. ;) The last two are good, but not final perfect and so I must improve it in the next weeks... Please be not bad with me, that I have not so much time in September and October. I have always a guilty conscience, that I can not help more. :( I personaly would like to help the entire world. I think its good to help other people and other good projects, where ever we can. Its not good to work only on own projects, because this makes a little bit bigoted ;) We should help wherever we can with our contacts, ideas, talents. In the german Kampagnen Wikia it's silent today, so I can make other things. I have wrote some good ideas to run the Kampagnen Wikia professional, but with 2 or 3 aktive people its not possible to make decisions for a community project. So we need time and then the people will come. Maybe on September, 30, will be a think tank in Munich, where some people also get to know Campaigns Wikia and can think about it. It's only a little start. General Wikipedia and CW are different things. CW need people who would like to run campaigns. The Wiki is here only a working tool for online collaboration to run campaigns. Also in german we would like more to make "politic from below", we are not so much interested in single partys and single politicans like in the US and the english CW. It seems to me, that We are more interested in issues beyond the old political party model. Generaly we should also use later our Joker, Jimmy, on the right time. I think this will be important. But before we need good people :) Jimmy's "magic 5 people" I like. I think this is a number, where things can start. But if this 5 people are not people, which self run campaigns, this 5 people will not enough :) The people who say: "i dont like this and this and I want to change it!", this people are important. My personal interest in global humane campaigns are mostly fulfilled, so that I personaly dont need to start here new global campaigns with special themes. This is why my personal focus is now more to support existing world campaigns. Beyond my project work I will help in the future also humane projects in graphic design things for free, because I see, its necessary. If I find beyond my other humane work time, I will learn more and more about, so that I can help professional. I think, this is a good idea. :) Also I like a global project calling "World Social Web" (WSW) which its not yet generaly public at this time. The WSW shall be a social semantic web inside of the world wide web, where the people can find new humane friends, the love or project partner for good regional or global humane projects beyond the economical web and financial interests. The WSW shall base on the Earth-Charta and bring also the leading global humane projects together, so that its possible to interlink the critically mass of humane thinking people with the internet, at least 20 million people online and in the reality. The WSW will not be a organisation and it will not belong a organisation, a company, a person, groups or countrys. It will belong simple all humane committed persons. The part of the real WSW will include in every bigger town think-tanks, where people come together to provide selfless in collective intelligence their ideas, contacts and talents to help best practice projects to be global successfully projects in a short time. For every humane project its always the same: its hard to realize global projects and find the best regional brains worldwide and win them. In the future it shall be possible for best pratice projects to win the entire globe in a fast way with humane think tanks in every bigger town. This is what I like: collective intelligence beyond egoism, global humanity, semantic. This we need in the new web and in the real world. :) The WSW is a Web 3.0 or 4.0 project. We hear always the phrase "Web 2.0", but the Web 2.0 is not the end. :) Its only the kickoff and the Web 3.0 has already begun. Maybe anyone have interested in the WSW, so please feel free to write me. Hm... Let me think... Maybe we could think about to make in the CW the starting collaboration plattform for the WSW. Hmm... maybe this could a good idea for CW...? This idea comes to me in this second. I could speak with some people on the Munich think tank, if you would like the idea. Maybe this could bring more attention to the CW? But I dont know, if this is a right campaign? Its the start of a global mega project for a humane web, online and in the real world :)) Hmm... I dont know. > white.james.l at gmail.com wrote: > > Ingmar, you know you're amazing, right? Amazing... Hmm... I dont know... My english is also not so good, because I have unfortunately no language talent. :( I would like to speak 5 languages fluently, but Im happy, if i can speak a little bit english. ;-) I have try so much to learn good english, but I have no talent. Its too bad, but it is like it is. So I dont know is this "amazing" good or bad? If this is bad, please excuse me. I dont want to be bad. I only want to help.. I also would like to get to know some humane committed people here from other parts of the world. Unfortunately I dont know anybody here... Maybe we could change this? This would be nice. :) "I'm Ingmar from Germany, Berlin, and I help to realize good global projects" ;-) If someone have interest, please feel free to write me. I'm always interesting to get to know new friendly humane committed people and friends! :) Have a good time, Ingmar From lucychili at gmail.com Wed Sep 20 22:56:23 2006 From: lucychili at gmail.com (Janet Hawtin) Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 08:26:23 +0930 Subject: [Campaigns-l] logo's and more... :) In-Reply-To: <20060920131437.299170@gmx.net> References: <20060920131437.299170@gmx.net> Message-ID: It depends what your focus of humane is Ingmar. There are many projects which have this goal but approach it from different perspectives. This speech by Lawrence Lessig communicates well what the free software and free culture people are aiming for: http://www.linuxworld.com/events/keynotes/lwsf06-lessig.html I am Janet Hawtin. I live in Adelaide Australia. I train people in using ubuntu which is a free (liberty) software distribution (linux) http://www.ubuntu.com/community This last week we had software freedom day world wide. http://softwarefreedomday.org/teams This day is a celebration of free as in liberty software. This software enables people all around the world to be able to use and to contribute to the development of free software and to access information and share ideas. There is also a free culture student group called freeculture.org http://freeculture.org/ Both groups are interested in having information and computing and culture accessible and not controlled by specific companies. These groups are opposed to the DMCA and EUCD which defends rights for large IP owning corporations at the expense of basic freedoms for people around the world. It also protects large pharaceutical companies and makes it possible for them to protect their patents on treatment for AIDs, causing millions of people to die because they are not allowed to access cheap generic versions. The medicines sans frontieres group is posting about that. Many of these intellectual property laws sound harmless initially but their impact is wide and will be very limiting for people who share and collaborate. These are rights which are not based on public benefit. There are a lot of people trying to change these pressures on our freedoms and I'm sure that the german teams would love to hear from you. http://softwarefreedomday.org/teams/europe/germany. If computing based humanity isnt your cup of tea no problem. There is much need for humane perspectives in all our endeavours and I'm sure you will find communities which are interested directly in the things which are important to you. We certainly appreciate the great work that you contribute to the campaign wiki. Cheers Janet From allthecoolnameshavegone at gmail.com Fri Sep 22 09:15:40 2006 From: allthecoolnameshavegone at gmail.com (Brian Reilly) Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 10:15:40 +0100 Subject: [Campaigns-l] logo's and more... :) In-Reply-To: References: <20060920131437.299170@gmx.net> Message-ID: <8e664de70609220215k19eec130j5103a61c42f18d3d@mail.gmail.com> Is there any way to get a hold of the video of Lessig's speech without using coral? Coral is a rather unusable technology, with files and sites frequently offline. I really can't be bothered checking in several times a day until the file happens to be up again. Is there somewhere else it can be downloaded from? On 9/20/06, Janet Hawtin wrote: > > It depends what your focus of humane is Ingmar. > There are many projects which have this goal but approach it from > different perspectives. This speech by Lawrence Lessig communicates > well what the free software and free culture people are aiming for: > http://www.linuxworld.com/events/keynotes/lwsf06-lessig.html > > I am Janet Hawtin. > I live in Adelaide Australia. > I train people in using ubuntu which is a free (liberty) > software distribution (linux) > http://www.ubuntu.com/community > > This last week we had software freedom day world wide. > http://softwarefreedomday.org/teams > > This day is a celebration of free as in liberty software. > This software enables people all around the world to > be able to use and to contribute to the development of free software > and to access information and share ideas. > > There is also a free culture student group called freeculture.org > http://freeculture.org/ > > Both groups are interested in having information and computing and > culture accessible and not controlled by specific companies. > > These groups are opposed to the DMCA and EUCD which > defends rights for large IP owning corporations at the expense of > basic freedoms for people around the world. > > It also protects large pharaceutical companies and makes it possible for > them > to protect their patents on treatment for AIDs, causing millions of > people to die because they are not allowed to access cheap generic > versions. > The medicines sans frontieres group is posting about that. > > Many of these intellectual property laws sound harmless initially but > their > impact is wide and will be very limiting for people who share and > collaborate. > These are rights which are not based on public benefit. > > There are a lot of people trying to change these pressures on > our freedoms and I'm sure that the german teams would love to hear from > you. > http://softwarefreedomday.org/teams/europe/germany. > > If computing based humanity isnt your cup of tea no problem. > There is much need for humane perspectives in all our endeavours and I'm > sure > you will find communities which are interested directly in the things > which > are important to you. > > We certainly appreciate the great work that you contribute to the > campaign wiki. > > Cheers > > Janet > _______________________________________________ > Campaigns-l mailing list > Campaigns-l at wikia.com > http://lists.wikia.com/mailman/listinfo/campaigns-l > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On 9/22/06, Janet Hawtin wrote: > > I used the link below the coral one with the bold text > Free Culture: What We Need From You (Ogg Theora, 93.4 MB) > _______________________________________________ > Campaigns-l mailing list > Campaigns-l at wikia.com > http://lists.wikia.com/mailman/listinfo/campaigns-l > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.wikia.com/pipermail/campaigns-l/attachments/20060923/2d146a68/attachment.html