From Robin-P at slingshot.co.nz  Tue May 12 10:18:52 2009
From: Robin-P at slingshot.co.nz (Robin Patterson)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 22:18:52 +1200
Subject: [Genealogy-l] Familypedia internal errors
References: <49e7a0f6.1997600a.3ef6.3c2e@mx.google.com>
	<013e01c9bf55$7f6635a0$0201a8c0@home>
Message-ID: <001301c9d2eb$0cf1f1e0$0201a8c0@home>

Who else is getting this? It's just started

Internal error
>From Genealogy
Jump to: navigation, search

Set $wgShowExceptionDetails = true; at the bottom
of LocalSettings.php to show detailed debugging
information.


[Mr] Robin Forlonge Patterson,
88 Motuhara Road, Plimmerton, Porirua City 5026,
New Zealand
Member of NZ Society of Genealogists since 1974
http://wc.rootsweb.com/~robinp
And see http://genealogy.wikia.com/ a free
cooperative MediaWiki site, and my easy
introduction to it at
http://squidoo.com/Genealogy-Wiki.

-l


From beesley at gmail.com  Tue May 12 10:32:52 2009
From: beesley at gmail.com (Angela)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 20:32:52 +1000
Subject: [Genealogy-l] Familypedia internal errors
In-Reply-To: <001301c9d2eb$0cf1f1e0$0201a8c0@home>
References: <49e7a0f6.1997600a.3ef6.3c2e@mx.google.com>
	<013e01c9bf55$7f6635a0$0201a8c0@home>
	<001301c9d2eb$0cf1f1e0$0201a8c0@home>
Message-ID: <8b722b800905120332u51c4fecbtfd3c57ffd77ec546@mail.gmail.com>

> Set $wgShowExceptionDetails = true;

We're looking into it now. Currently all edits are affected.

Angela

From beesley at gmail.com  Tue May 12 10:35:30 2009
From: beesley at gmail.com (Angela)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 20:35:30 +1000
Subject: [Genealogy-l] Familypedia internal errors
In-Reply-To: <8b722b800905120332u51c4fecbtfd3c57ffd77ec546@mail.gmail.com>
References: <49e7a0f6.1997600a.3ef6.3c2e@mx.google.com>
	<013e01c9bf55$7f6635a0$0201a8c0@home>
	<001301c9d2eb$0cf1f1e0$0201a8c0@home>
	<8b722b800905120332u51c4fecbtfd3c57ffd77ec546@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8b722b800905120335y2b10e38dp8fe7e77304024e89@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 8:32 PM, Angela <beesley at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Set $wgShowExceptionDetails = true;
>
> We're looking into it now. Currently all edits are affected.

And it's now fixed. I should have waited a minute before posting. :)

As a reminder, http://genealogy.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contact can be
used to alert staff to such problems.

Angela

From Robin-P at slingshot.co.nz  Fri May 22 09:13:47 2009
From: Robin-P at slingshot.co.nz (Robin-P)
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 21:13:47 +1200
Subject: [Genealogy-l] [Semediawiki-user] New query format: 'outline' -
	three+ genealogy chart ?
References: <55dbda5c0905210804n19f9eaa2lf6f2e88e39f57a7@mail.gmail.com>
	<cf2212c40905211225g716a3b5ei1e32b224cadc4e9e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <00a901c9dabd$9de25620$0201a8c0@home>

Robert may find the answer on the Genealogy Wikia by asking User:Phlox, who is creating our SMW:
http://genealogy.wikia.com/wiki/User:Phlox 

[Mr] Robin Forlonge Patterson, 
88 Motuhara Road, Plimmerton, Porirua City 5026, New Zealand
Member of NZ Society of Genealogists since 1974
http://wc.rootsweb.com/~robinp
And see http://genealogy.wikia.com/ a free cooperative MediaWiki site, and my easy introduction to it at http://squidoo.com/Genealogy-Wiki. 


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Robert Murphy 
  To: Yaron Koren 
  Cc: Semantic MediaWiki users 
  Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 7:25 AM
  Subject: Re: [Semediawiki-user] New query format: 'outline'


  Thanks for doing this Yaron.  I got very excited when this was first discussed but it disappeared for a long time.  I'm glad you found the time.


  I see your example, but perhaps I'm misunderstanding the purpose of this format.  Imagine al the pieces of an Org chart or every person in a family tree having having their own page.  If they all had semantic relationships like Has_parent:: and Has_children::, how would I get a three+ genealogy chart out of SRF?  Would I need to redefine the template on each page to automatically add Has_grandparent::?


  -Robert Murphy


  On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 8:04 AM, Yaron Koren <yaron57 at gmail.com> wrote:

    Hi,

    I just added a new query format, 'outline', to Semantic Result Formats. This format displays results in a tabbed outline, with one or more of the display properties setting the values for the headers. You may recall that a format of this type has been discussed on this list at various times for almost a year now; I finally sat down and wrote it. You can see the documentation for it here:

    http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Outline_format

    And you can see a demonstration of it on Discourse DB here:

    http://discoursedb.org/wiki/Outline_example

    This format has also been added to SRF's default set of formats, so if you upgrade to the new version of SRF you should just be able to use it.

    -Yaron

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From Robin-P at slingshot.co.nz  Fri May 29 02:51:11 2009
From: Robin-P at slingshot.co.nz (Robin-P)
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 14:51:11 +1200
Subject: [Genealogy-l] Fw: [Semediawiki-user] Property & Subproperty
Message-ID: <042601c9e008$5368b120$0201a8c0@home>

Some Familypedians may find this discussion
relevant to current work!


[Mr] Robin Forlonge Patterson,
88 Motuhara Road, Plimmerton, Porirua City 5026,
New Zealand
Member of NZ Society of Genealogists since 1974
http://wc.rootsweb.com/~robinp
And see http://genealogy.wikia.com/ a free
cooperative MediaWiki site, and my easy
introduction to it at
http://squidoo.com/Genealogy-Wiki.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dan Bolser" <dan.bolser at gmail.com>
To: "John Ellingsworth" <john at ellingsworth.org>
Cc: <semediawiki-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 10:46 AM
Subject: Re: [Semediawiki-user] Property &
Subproperty


> 2009/5/26 John Ellingsworth
<john at ellingsworth.org>:
> > I need some help understanding the use of
subproperties; specifically,
> > whether my specific implementation of them is
correct or not.
> > (The information involves the burial location
of an individual in a cemetery.)
> >
> > In my site, each Person page has a property
called Section, which is a number.
> > Within each Section, there is a property
called Plot (a number as well).
> >
> > The Plot is always in a specific Section, and
every Person is found in
> > a Plot within a Section.
> >
> > A Person cannot have a Plot without having a
Section.
> > The Section and Plot information may not be
available for that Person
> > and thus both will be blank.
> >
> > The Plot values in a section normally range
from 1-100; same for a
> > Section as well.
> > The following combinations are examples:
> >
> > Section=100, Plot=1
> > Section=45, Plot=1
> > Section=7, Plot =23
> > etc.
> >
> > As you can see, a Plot value may exist in more
than one Section, but
> > the Plot is hierarchically under a specific
Section.
> >
> > Would it be correct for my Property:Plot page
to have the following:
> >
> > [[subproperty of::Property:Section]]
>
> Sorry, ignore the previous email.
>
> I don't think so. Reading this:
>
>
http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Semantic_search_1.0#Subcategories_and_subproperties
>
>  "When selecting pages by some constraint on a
property, the result
> also includes all pages that have subproperties
of this property."
>
>
> This would imply that a query for
[[section::23]] would also return
> all pages with property [[plot::23]], which
isn't at all what you
> want.
>
> There isn't a canonical example for the use of
sub-properties that I
> can find, but a good example is discussed here:
>
>
http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=47B74291.2000803%40yahoo.com
>
>
> (I really hate the current sourceforge mail
archives!)
>
>
> So basically I'd recommend something like (in
the page for a
> particular Plot): "Plot 23 is located in
[[located in::Section 7]]".
> The hierarchy comes from your understanding of
what the property
> "located in" means and how it is used in the
wiki.
>
>
> Out of interest (as an aside), I know there are
ontologies of
> ontological relationships. Is the property
'located in' part of some
> standard ontology? How would one 'bring that in'
to a SMW install and
> associate the 'located in' property with that
'recognized' term? Is
> this just a simple case of giving the property
the right URI? Why do
> people import ontologies?
>
>
> Using the above, it should be possible for you
to query all the people
> in a particular section (in any plot) without
all those people
> explicitly having a section property. I think
this is done using
> sub-queries.
>
> HTH,
> Dan.
>
>
> > ?
> >
> > Any advice on whether this is the correct
thinking regarding
> > subproperties would be most appreciated.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > John Ellingsworth
> >
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