[Grub-dev] do we even really need a native client

[Martin Smith]

Your link doesn't document anything -- it's a post about "wouldn't it be
nice if...". It has NO urls, no service definitions, and I was actually
already subscribed to this list at the time.

I asked for specific technical documentation since Jer linked me
directly to a web service, and I have no idea of parameters, semantics,
and authentication credentials.

There's a huge jump from "I propose a new work unit!" to "Here is a URL
that purported is the new work unit but requires auth you don't know
about."

As I said once before to Jer (and maybe posted here), if we're talking
about (mostly?) scrapping Grub or the workunit idea, we might as well
use the open source crawlers that Archive.org uses, since they produce
the file format we want AND are open source AND are cross-platform AND
are distributed AND already exist.

Perhaps we need some better documentation of where this project is going
if you want more F/OSS contributors -- I was definitely interested in
helping out until the compression bug with the original grub, and now I
feel totally lost in the discussion :)

Martin Smith, Systems Developer
martins at bebr.ufl.edu
Bureau of Economic and Business Research
University of Florida
(352) 392-0171 Ext. 221 

 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: grub-dev-bounces at wikia.com 
> [mailto:grub-dev-bounces at wikia.com] On Behalf Of Yousef Ourabi
> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 11:17 PM
> To: Grub.org Development
> Subject: Re: [Grub-dev] do we even really need a native client
> 
> Martin, here is the direct link, also relevant are the mailing list 
> discussions of this month.
> 
> http://lists.wikia.com/pipermail/grub-dev/2007-November/000010.html
> 
> 
> Martin Smith wrote:
> > Jer, I'm lost. Is there a pointer you could provide me with 
> for this new system? How does this affect dev.grub.org's Trac?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: grub-dev-bounces at wikia.com on behalf of jer
> > Sent: Thu 1/10/2008 3:02 PM
> > To: Grub.org Development
> > Subject: Re: [Grub-dev] do we even really need a native client
> >  
> > I'm abandoning all of the old SOAP stuff in favour of the 
> new super  
> > simple workunit format:
> > 	http://dispatch.grub.swlabs.org/do/workunit
> >
> > Sorry for any confusion, this is an entirely new system we're  
> > building, same basic principles of the old Grub though.
> >
> > Jer
> >
> > On Jan 10, 2008, at 12:54 PM, Martin Smith wrote:
> >
> >   
> >> Hi folks,
> >>
> >>     
> >>>> Right. But a client could wish to speak HTTP/1.1 There's 
> still that
> >>>> problem  with the compression.
> >>>>         
> >>> The workunit specifies the full request, including the HTTP/1.0
> >>> part.  If a client is smart enough (and wants) to munge 
> the requests
> >>> in the workunit into 1.1, it'll have to be smart enough 
> to force the
> >>> responses back into 1.0, seems like some unnecessary work though?
> >>>       
> >> Correct me if I'm wrong, but the SOAP service requires digest auth,
> >> which is only available for HTTP/1.1, so there's really no option  
> >> to use
> >> HTTP/1.0 to avoid the compression-whether-you-like-it-or-not issue,
> >> right?
> >>
> >> I was interested in doing some grub-client work for this 
> project a  
> >> while
> >> back, but I couldn't get around the compression issue 
> without redoing
> >> part of an HTTP library implementation, so I just stopped 
> to wait for
> >> the bug to get fixed. I had tried to reuse existing libraries and  
> >> force
> >> HTTP/1.0, but they'd fail as soon as digest auth came up.
> >>
> >> Martin Smith, Systems Developer
> >> martins at bebr.ufl.edu
> >> Bureau of Economic and Business Research
> >> University of Florida
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