[Search-l] twin principles, or what brings us together?

Jimmy Wales jwales at wikia.com
Tue May 8 11:23:25 UTC 2007


This is brilliant.  I am giving a public lecture this morning here in 
NYC, and will be using this as a slide. :)

I have been using a slide which had a bullet point for transparency and 
commnity (explained as your first two points are), but I am adding the 
next two points.  Brilliant.

> WIKIA SEARCH-- FOUR ORGANIZING PRINCIPLES
> 1.        Transparency - Openness in how the systems and algorithms operate,
> both in the form of open source licenses and open content + APIs.
> 2.       Collaboration - Everyone is able to contribute in some way (as
> individuals or entire organizations), strong social and community focus.
> 3.       Quality - Significantly improve the relevancy and accuracy of 
> search
> results and the searching experience.
> 4.       Privacy - "Pursuing the Holy Grail of Privacy Protection"  A 
> threefold process?:
>         a) decentralizing storage;
>         b) maintaining enough data to keep the project competitive and 
> functional; but
>         c) never too much in one place to facilitate privacy breeches.
> 
> I would personally add Personalization or even Hypercustomization to 
> this list, but that could be a subpoint of "quality" depending on how 
> one looks at it.
> 
> NB
> 
> On 5/7/07, *Fred Benenson* <fcb at fredbenenson.com 
> <mailto:fcb at fredbenenson.com>> wrote:
> 
>     Hi,
>        First let me introduce myself -- my name's Fred. I'm a free
>     culture activist, and student at ITP @ NYU. I brought Jimmy to
>     announce this project at NYU (he claimed it was the first public
>     announcement, but I had heard rumblings before.) as part of a free
>     culture lecture series I was organizing. So I'm really looking
>     forward to seeing how this progresses.
> 
>     Second, and my real reason for the reply is add/comment on Jer's
>     principles:
> 
>     What about privacy? If this project wants to compete with big G then
>     we're going to have think hard about a good data retention policy.
>     That is, we'll want to collect enough of the same data (common
>     search terms, errors, effective results, etc.) that Google does,
>     store it somewhere, analyze it, so we can offer competitive services
>     and features, but not compromise anyone's privacy.
> 
>     Perhaps this is too soon to start worrying, but I fear that Google +
>     others will have a huge advantage over us if we choose not to
>     collect any data as they always have access to their data set, and
>     are always able to run their algorithms and analyses.
> 
>      I think we'll probably be able to find some kind of compromise --
>     enough data to keep the project competitive and functional, but not
>     enough to facilitate privacy breeches, but it's still something we
>     have to think hard about, from the beginning, because, ostensibly,
>     the log files will be available for anyone to peruse.
> 
> 
> 
>     F
> 
> 
>     On 5/7/07, *jer* < jeremie at jabber.org <mailto:jeremie at jabber.org>>
>     wrote:
> 
>         Nobody yet pointed out a completely glaring omission, the obvious
>         one, and perhaps the most important unifying principle of the
>         three now:
> 
>                 Quality - Significantly improve the relevancy and
>         accuracy of search
>         results and the searching experience.
> 
>         Jer
> 
>         On May 7, 2007, at 1:59 AM, jer wrote:
> 
>         >  One thing I've spent a lot of time trying to summarize is what
>         is it
>         >  that really brought us together, what defines this effort in the
>         >  simplest way?
>         >
>         >  Here's what I've come up with so far as my twin principles:
>         >
>         >       Transparency - Openness in how the systems and algorithms
>         operate,
>         >  both in the form of open source licenses and open content + APIs.
>         >       Collaboration - Everyone is able to contribute in some
>         way (as
>         >  individuals or entire organizations), strong social and community
>         >  focus.
>         >
>         >  We are a search community built on a shared belief in
>         Transparency
>         >  and Collaboration... I hope that rings true for everyone else
>         here,
>         >  it's what I personally believe in as the foundation for a better
>         >  search.
>         >
>         >  Jer
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