[Search-l] Introducing Wikia Evolution

Jeremie Miller jeremie at jabber.org
Thu Aug 7 06:05:01 UTC 2008


Sure, and yes KT is meant to be an official API, there's no formal  
documentation on it as it's going through several stages of evolution  
pretty quickly here.  There's been some light discussion of the newer  
API changes on the search-ui list and it's pretty straight forward  
from either looking at the JS calls from the browser or just looking  
at the KT sources (svn.swlabs.org/kt), post any questions to that list  
if something isn't obvious from either of those.

Jer

On Aug 7, 2008, at 12:52 AM, Aerik Sylvan wrote:

> And the bots and widgets are all well and good, but I think I'm  
> really asking about an API - whether it's official or unofficial.
>
> I mean, on the negative side, sooner or later spammers will write  
> automated scripts to try to game the search index, whether you give  
> them a formal API or not.  I'm sure just looking at the ajax in the  
> website or the source of the toolbar would yield the information  
> needed to automatically send entries (unless they're protected with  
> captcha - I haven't tried the toolbar yet).
>
> So, what I'm thinking, is you're going to have to fight that battle  
> anyway.  There are also good players who would be happy to share  
> their human generated keywords and urls with the index in a semi- 
> automated fashion - thus my social bookmarking example.  Every  
> bookmark would make the index smarter, but wikia itself would not  
> have to become a bookmarking application.  This is not so much a bot  
> or widget, as an API call.
>
> Best Regards,
> Aerik
>
> On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 10:41 PM, Jeremie Miller <jeremie at jabber.org>  
> wrote:
> Also very often what you might want to use a bot for, could possibly
> be better served via building a widget, which is starting to get some
> foundation built for it so hopefully there will be something to play
> with on that front soon :)
>
> Jer
>
> On Aug 6, 2008, at 8:47 PM, Jimmy Wales wrote:
>
> > We don't really have a bot policy yet, but basically I would think
> > of it
> > as being something for the community to decide.  The basic way it
> > should
> > work is for someone to propose what their bot will do, discuss it,
> > show
> > examples, let people comment on it, modify it, etc., and when  
> there is
> > consensus, run it.
> >
> > Aerik Sylvan wrote:
> >> Cool.  What is Wikia's policy going to be with regards to automated
> >> submissions?  In other words, users can use the ajaxy interface on
> >> search.wikia to add to the index, etc., users can use the toolbar
> >> to do
> >> it also...  suppose someone wanted to have their application do
> >> automated (theoretically non-spammy) submissions to the index?  Is
> >> this
> >> welcomed, frowned on...?  Here an even more concrete example:  I
> >> have a
> >> social bookmarking/tagging thing.  By definition, users are saying
> >> that
> >> the tags they use are keywords for the urls they are tagging.  I
> >> could,
> >> for instance, post those keywords to search.wikia...?
> >
> > Sounds interesting!
> >
> > --Jimbo
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