[Search-l] Search-l Digest, Vol 14, Issue 10

Tue Jan 8 21:01:49 UTC 2008

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Crazy idea for how this could work (John McCormac)
   2. Automatically linking to Wikipedia (Angela)
   3. Re: Automatically linking to Wikipedia (Mark (Markie))
   4. Re: Seth on moderation (Angela)
   5. Re: Seth on moderation (Mark (Markie))
   6. Re: Seth on moderation (Gabriel Medina)
   7. Seite eintragen (sensifreak)
   8. Re: Seth on moderation (Angela)
   9. Re: Seite eintragen (Mark (Markie))
  10. Re: Seth on moderation (Mark (Markie))
  11. Re: a few questions (Patrick Aljord)
  12. Re: a few questions (Mark (Markie))
  13. Re: Seth on moderation (jwales at imap.wikia.com)
  14. Re: Seth on moderation (Mark (Markie))
  15. Re: Seth on moderation (agnes chen)
  16. Re: Automatically linking to Wikipedia (Bani)
  17. Re: Seite eintragen (sensifreak)
  18. Re: Seite eintragen (Mark (Markie))
  19. Microsoft Takes Over FAST (John McCormac)
  20. Re: Microsoft Takes Over FAST (Maxim Zakharov)
  21. Re: Automatically linking to Wikipedia (Alex Halavais)
  22. Autoreply: Re:  Microsoft Takes Over FAST (a-post at my-mail.ch)
  23. Autoreply:  Autoreply: Re:  Microsoft Takes Over FAST
      (a-post at my-mail.ch)
  24. Autoreply: Autoreply: Autoreply: Re: Microsoft Takes Over
      FAST (a-post at my-mail.ch)
  25. Re: Microsoft Takes Over FAST (John McCormac)
  26. Autoreply: Autoreply: Autoreply: Autoreply: Re: Microsoft
      Takes Over FAST (a-post at my-mail.ch)
  27. Autoreply: Re:  Microsoft Takes Over FAST (a-post at my-mail.ch)
  28. Autoreply: Autoreply: Autoreply: Autoreply: Autoreply: Re:
      Microsoft Takes Over FAST (a-post at my-mail.ch)
  29. Autoreply:  Autoreply: Re:  Microsoft Takes Over FAST
      (a-post at my-mail.ch)

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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2008 16:36:54 +0000
From: John McCormac <jmcc at hackwatch.com>
Subject: Re: [Search-l] Crazy idea for how this could work
To: Mailing list for Search Wikia <search-l at wikia.com>
Message-ID: <4783A6A6.5000009 at hackwatch.com>
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Jordi wrote:
> 
> I guess that most mini-articles will include a link to the wikipedia 
> equivalent.
> But both concepts mix gracefully together, mini-articles are not a 
> replacement.
> 
> About the spamming. You can have the same worries about Wikipedia. It 
> has not become a spamming place as well as wikia won't become one.

So far, the demo index is a spamfest. While I realise that it is only a proof of concept index, my 
opinion is that it was put together by people who really don't understand how to build a good index. 
Wikia is repeating the same mistakes as all those others who stick up a copy of Nutch and use Dmoz 
as the seed to build an index. All too frequently, these wannabe search engines go bang within 
eighteen months or so. Unlike these wannabes, Wikia Search is funded and has access to people with 
some search engine expertise (I think).

The Search Engine business has a history of algorithms being gamed for profit. With Altavista and 
that generation of SEs, it was keyword stuffing in the metadata and white on white text. When Google 
arrived, and people understood the value of links, the linkswamps appeared. Now it is drop catchers 
and domain tasters who recycle dropped domains and websites in the hope that the search engines will 
not notice that the sites have changed hands and will therefore maintain the site's rankings and 
position in the search engine results.

Can Wikia Search be saved? Probably. But it will take a lot of hard work and serious expertise 
beyond what it is using at the moment. High minded ideals and throwing shapes in the air is all very 
good for the click and drool technology journalists. The hard part is getting down in the mud of the 
web and doing the hard work.

Regards...jmcc
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 03:38:41 +1100
From: Angela <beesley at gmail.com>
Subject: [Search-l] Automatically linking to Wikipedia
To: "Mailing list for Search Wikia" <Search-l at wikia.com>
Message-ID:
	<8b722b800801080838x210add6cie85a68f46767ee1 at mail.gmail.com>
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There's an idea below from a Wikipedia mailing list - should
mini-articles automatically link to Wikipedia rather than that being
added in manually (and inconsistently)?

Angela

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: doc <doc.wikipedia at ntlworld.com>
Date: Jan 8, 2008 11:04 PM
Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Search Wikia
To: English Wikipedia <wikien-l at lists.wikimedia.org>

What really confuses me is not the links between Wikipedia and the
SearchWikia, but the lack of them. I think they/we are missing an
obvious possibility.

When I search wikia for "example", two questions arise:

1) Why is the Wikipedia article on "example" not listed? It is rated
third in Google, why not at all by wikia? Even when a type "example
wikipedia" I don't get a hit? What on earth? Wikipedia seems to be
excluded from most searches - or certainly undervalued.

2) Wikia search invites me to write a short article on "example", and
release it under the GNU:

We do not have a mini article about "example". Improve the search
results for everyone by starting this article!

What is point in creating a free content alternative article to the
Wikipedia one? Surely the sensible thing would be to link to the
Wikipedia/wikitionary article - and if that article is non-existent,
invite the searcher to write one for Wikiasearch. That new article,
written for Wikiasearch, could then be transposed back into wikipedia or
wikitionary (although perhaps through some sort of human filter where a
regular wikipedia/wiktionary editor will decide whether it benefits the
project).

If this was put into effect, it would help both projects. People, never
connected previously with wikipedia, would be providing content for us.
And free knowledge generally would increase.

Doc

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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 16:41:14 +0000
From: "Mark (Markie)" <newsmarkie at googlemail.com>
Subject: Re: [Search-l] Automatically linking to Wikipedia
To: "Mailing list for Search Wikia" <search-l at wikia.com>
Message-ID:
	<a6424d870801080841o43d415a4p535635d7fcd0e3ff at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

i think if its possible we should maybe do something that fetches the
content from the wikipedia page of foo (obv for the search term of foo)
UNLESS we have a local page and then this should overide it and be used
instead.  this would mean that for most simple searches we would then have a
result which is likely to be much higher quality and less spam ridden

thoughts?? :-)

mark

On Jan 8, 2008 4:38 PM, Angela <beesley at gmail.com> wrote:

> There's an idea below from a Wikipedia mailing list - should
> mini-articles automatically link to Wikipedia rather than that being
> added in manually (and inconsistently)?
>
> Angela
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: doc <doc.wikipedia at ntlworld.com>
> Date: Jan 8, 2008 11:04 PM
> Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Search Wikia
> To: English Wikipedia <wikien-l at lists.wikimedia.org>
>
>
> What really confuses me is not the links between Wikipedia and the
> SearchWikia, but the lack of them. I think they/we are missing an
> obvious possibility.
>
> When I search wikia for "example", two questions arise:
>
> 1) Why is the Wikipedia article on "example" not listed? It is rated
> third in Google, why not at all by wikia? Even when a type "example
> wikipedia" I don't get a hit? What on earth? Wikipedia seems to be
> excluded from most searches - or certainly undervalued.
>
> 2) Wikia search invites me to write a short article on "example", and
> release it under the GNU:
>
> We do not have a mini article about "example". Improve the search
> results for everyone by starting this article!
>
> What is point in creating a free content alternative article to the
> Wikipedia one? Surely the sensible thing would be to link to the
> Wikipedia/wikitionary article - and if that article is non-existent,
> invite the searcher to write one for Wikiasearch. That new article,
> written for Wikiasearch, could then be transposed back into wikipedia or
> wikitionary (although perhaps through some sort of human filter where a
> regular wikipedia/wiktionary editor will decide whether it benefits the
> project).
>
> If this was put into effect, it would help both projects. People, never
> connected previously with wikipedia, would be providing content for us.
> And free knowledge generally would increase.
>
> Doc
>
>
>
>
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 03:49:56 +1100
From: Angela <beesley at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Search-l] Seth on moderation
To: "Mailing list for Search Wikia" <search-l at wikia.com>
Message-ID:
	<8b722b800801080849m50c01577k2a78bb000e88576 at mail.gmail.com>
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On Jan 9, 2008 12:09 AM, Michael Wechner <michael.wechner at wyona.com> wrote:
> Angela wrote:
> >>I agree that FUD is bad and I cannot judge myself, but are there other
> >>moderators than you and if so, who are they?
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Mostly me, though in theory any member of Wikia staff has access to do that.
> >
> >
>
> ok. Anyone from outside of Wikia?

Not yet. Are you volunteering?

Speaking of volunteering, if anyone has admin experience, the wiki at
search.wikia.com needs some help. Let me know if you'd like to help to
watch over the creation of mini-articles and help to keep the wiki
clean.

Angela

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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 16:51:13 +0000
From: "Mark (Markie)" <newsmarkie at googlemail.com>
Subject: Re: [Search-l] Seth on moderation
To: "Mailing list for Search Wikia" <search-l at wikia.com>
Message-ID:
	<a6424d870801080851s3c7e1676n35a05322022a1a88 at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

i will if it you need people.  give me another thing to do :-)

mark

On Jan 8, 2008 4:49 PM, Angela <beesley at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Jan 9, 2008 12:09 AM, Michael Wechner <michael.wechner at wyona.com>
> wrote:
> > Angela wrote:
> > >>I agree that FUD is bad and I cannot judge myself, but are there other
> > >>moderators than you and if so, who are they?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >Mostly me, though in theory any member of Wikia staff has access to do
> that.
> > >
> > >
> >
> > ok. Anyone from outside of Wikia?
>
> Not yet. Are you volunteering?
>
> Speaking of volunteering, if anyone has admin experience, the wiki at
> search.wikia.com needs some help. Let me know if you'd like to help to
> watch over the creation of mini-articles and help to keep the wiki
> clean.
>
> Angela
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 13:52:01 -0300
From: "Gabriel Medina" <gxsoft at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Search-l] Seth on moderation
To: "Mailing list for Search Wikia" <search-l at wikia.com>
Message-ID:
	<39b08cc0801080852w3011a87eg82587090a0239544 at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

I?m

On Jan 8, 2008 1:49 PM, Angela <beesley at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Jan 9, 2008 12:09 AM, Michael Wechner <michael.wechner at wyona.com>
> wrote:
> > Angela wrote:
> > >>I agree that FUD is bad and I cannot judge myself, but are there other
> > >>moderators than you and if so, who are they?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >Mostly me, though in theory any member of Wikia staff has access to do
> that.
> > >
> > >
> >
> > ok. Anyone from outside of Wikia?
>
> Not yet. Are you volunteering?
>
> Speaking of volunteering, if anyone has admin experience, the wiki at
> search.wikia.com needs some help. Let me know if you'd like to help to
> watch over the creation of mini-articles and help to keep the wiki
> clean.
>
> Angela
> _______________________________________________
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> http://alpha.search.wikia.com/
> Change options or unsubscribe:
> http://lists.wikia.com/mailman/options/search-l
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 17:54:38 +0100
From: "sensifreak" <sensifreak at web.de>
Subject: [Search-l] Seite eintragen
To: <search-l at wikia.com>
Message-ID: <C5831D05EDEB4FDF9D8B445754B8CCFB at sensilaptop>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

Hallo,
Wie kann eine Seite In den INdex eintragen und gibt es eine API schnittstelle?
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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 03:56:09 +1100
From: Angela <beesley at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Search-l] Seth on moderation
To: "Mailing list for Search Wikia" <search-l at wikia.com>
Message-ID:
	<8b722b800801080856n7007dfdcxcc0fd65e460751be at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

On Jan 9, 2008 3:51 AM, Mark (Markie) <newsmarkie at googlemail.com> wrote:
> i will if it you need people.  give me another thing to do :-)
>
> mark

Which part? Moderating the mailing list or admining the wiki?

Angela

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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 16:56:58 +0000
From: "Mark (Markie)" <newsmarkie at googlemail.com>
Subject: Re: [Search-l] Seite eintragen
To: "Mailing list for Search Wikia" <search-l at wikia.com>
Message-ID:
	<a6424d870801080856y78bb0d7cya2093ece76ce3137 at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

if i understand you correctly you are asking for the index and api details.
the index cannot yet be downloaded (as far as i know) and there is no api
that i know of yet, but please remember the site has only been in beta for
around 24 hrs.  please check back soon :-)

mark

 Auto ?bersetzt :-(

Wenn ich Sie richtig verstanden habe Sie fordern f?r die Index-und api
Details. Der Index kann noch nicht heruntergeladen werden (soweit ich wei?),
und es gibt keine api, die ich kenne, aber bedenken Sie bitte die Website
wurde nur in der Beta-Version f?r rund 24 Stunden. Please check back soon
:-)

Mark

On Jan 8, 2008 4:54 PM, sensifreak <sensifreak at web.de> wrote:

>  Hallo,
> Wie kann eine Seite In den INdex eintragen und gibt es eine API
> schnittstelle?
>
> _______________________________________________
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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 16:57:35 +0000
From: "Mark (Markie)" <newsmarkie at googlemail.com>
Subject: Re: [Search-l] Seth on moderation
To: "Mailing list for Search Wikia" <search-l at wikia.com>
Message-ID:
	<a6424d870801080857y4de9fd2ej8c9720afcd1900b0 at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

im already an admin so itl be the other one then :-)

mark
(markie - the wiki admin :-)

On Jan 8, 2008 4:56 PM, Angela <beesley at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Jan 9, 2008 3:51 AM, Mark (Markie) <newsmarkie at googlemail.com> wrote:
> > i will if it you need people.  give me another thing to do :-)
> >
> > mark
>
> Which part? Moderating the mailing list or admining the wiki?
>
> Angela
> _______________________________________________
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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 17:39:15 +0100
From: "Patrick Aljord" <patcito at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Search-l] a few questions
To: "Mailing list for Search Wikia" <search-l at wikia.com>
Message-ID:
	<6b6419750801080839i7e524740neb8916a38b5e5aec at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Thanks a lot for the reply, is there a page where I can see the list
of techs used or is this yet to come too?

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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 17:09:10 +0000
From: "Mark (Markie)" <newsmarkie at googlemail.com>
Subject: Re: [Search-l] a few questions
To: "Mailing list for Search Wikia" <search-l at wikia.com>
Message-ID:
	<a6424d870801080909k78bb5686v885363ef7d659c6a at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

i havent seen one, sorry

mark

On Jan 8, 2008 4:39 PM, Patrick Aljord <patcito at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks a lot for the reply, is there a page where I can see the list
> of techs used or is this yet to come too?
> _______________________________________________
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> http://alpha.search.wikia.com/
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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 12:31:27 -0500
From: jwales at imap.wikia.com
Subject: Re: [Search-l] Seth on moderation
To: Mailing list for Search Wikia <search-l at wikia.com>
Message-ID: <1199813580.202A5790 at fc9.dngr.org>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed"

Angela is really the primary moderator although I am checking the queue 
too.

If people want a mailing list open to random discourse on whether free 
software is a good idea or not, whether I am evil or not, whether wikia 
is a good idea or not, whether there is a secret conspiracy to whatever, 
I am happy to provide a forum for those things.  Unmoderated, 
uncontrolled, knock yourself out. :-)

I won't be subscribing,  though.  I intend to build a company grounded 
in principles of free culture, transparency, and openness.  I believe in 
community control.  I intend to do well by doing good.  And so I really 
don't care what negative people and FUD mongers think. :-)

I intend for this list to be a working list. As such, let's imagine we 
need to discuss something philosophical and potentially difficult, like 
privacy controls or how to appropriately define NPOV for search results. 
Then I insist that we do so in an atmosphere of "assume good faith".  
The conversation about whether I hold my positions from unstated evil 
motives is a waste of my time... and yours.
--sent from sidekick

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Message: 14
Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 17:37:51 +0000
From: "Mark (Markie)" <newsmarkie at googlemail.com>
Subject: Re: [Search-l] Seth on moderation
To: jwales at wikia.com, "Mailing list for Search Wikia"
	<search-l at wikia.com>
Message-ID:
	<a6424d870801080937l6834fed6vf5fc4d4f3851fa44 at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

just to let people know, i have been access by Angela to the list to sort
out the spam etc etc

mark

On Jan 8, 2008 5:31 PM, <jwales at imap.wikia.com> wrote:

> Angela is really the primary moderator although I am checking the queue
> too.
>
> If people want a mailing list open to random discourse on whether free
> software is a good idea or not, whether I am evil or not, whether wikia
> is a good idea or not, whether there is a secret conspiracy to whatever,
> I am happy to provide a forum for those things.  Unmoderated,
> uncontrolled, knock yourself out. :-)
>
> I won't be subscribing,  though.  I intend to build a company grounded
> in principles of free culture, transparency, and openness.  I believe in
> community control.  I intend to do well by doing good.  And so I really
> don't care what negative people and FUD mongers think. :-)
>
> I intend for this list to be a working list. As such, let's imagine we
> need to discuss something philosophical and potentially difficult, like
> privacy controls or how to appropriately define NPOV for search results.
> Then I insist that we do so in an atmosphere of "assume good faith".
> The conversation about whether I hold my positions from unstated evil
> motives is a waste of my time... and yours.
> --sent from sidekick
> _______________________________________________
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> http://alpha.search.wikia.com/
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Message: 15
Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 10:38:40 -0700
From: "agnes chen" <agnes.chen3 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Search-l] Seth on moderation
To: jwales at wikia.com, "Mailing list for Search Wikia"
	<search-l at wikia.com>
Message-ID:
	<f61bff9e0801080938w2e46ac89k46ce434e88418745 at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

Please unsubscribe me from this list. i have forgotten my password. thank
you.

On Jan 8, 2008 10:31 AM, <jwales at imap.wikia.com> wrote:

> Angela is really the primary moderator although I am checking the queue
> too.
>
> If people want a mailing list open to random discourse on whether free
> software is a good idea or not, whether I am evil or not, whether wikia
> is a good idea or not, whether there is a secret conspiracy to whatever,
> I am happy to provide a forum for those things.  Unmoderated,
> uncontrolled, knock yourself out. :-)
>
> I won't be subscribing,  though.  I intend to build a company grounded
> in principles of free culture, transparency, and openness.  I believe in
> community control.  I intend to do well by doing good.  And so I really
> don't care what negative people and FUD mongers think. :-)
>
> I intend for this list to be a working list. As such, let's imagine we
> need to discuss something philosophical and potentially difficult, like
> privacy controls or how to appropriately define NPOV for search results.
> Then I insist that we do so in an atmosphere of "assume good faith".
> The conversation about whether I hold my positions from unstated evil
> motives is a waste of my time... and yours.
> --sent from sidekick
> _______________________________________________
> Wikia Search mailing list
> http://alpha.search.wikia.com/
> Change options or unsubscribe:
> http://lists.wikia.com/mailman/options/search-l
>
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Message: 16
Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 15:39:11 -0200
From: Bani <borboleta at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Search-l] Automatically linking to Wikipedia
To: "Mailing list for Search Wikia" <search-l at wikia.com>
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I like the idea of linking better than fetching the content.

My suggestion is: for mini-aticles that don't exist but are on
Wikipedia, we suggest it as a source of information to start a new
article. And even when the mini-article already exists, we could have
something like a "see also [link to wikipedia] for more information".

On Jan 8, 2008 2:41 PM, Mark (Markie) <newsmarkie at googlemail.com> wrote:
> i think if its possible we should maybe do something that fetches the
> content from the wikipedia page of foo (obv for the search term of foo)

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Message: 17
Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 18:13:50 +0100
From: "sensifreak" <sensifreak at web.de>
Subject: Re: [Search-l] Seite eintragen
To: "Mailing list for Search Wikia" <search-l at wikia.com>
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i dont want do download the index i want to add a site to it :D is this possible?
thanks

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  if i understand you correctly you are asking for the index and api details.  the index cannot yet be downloaded (as far as i know) and there is no api that i know of yet, but please remember the site has only been in beta for around 24 hrs.  please check back soon :-) 

  mark

  Auto ?bersetzt :-( 

  Wenn ich Sie richtig verstanden habe Sie fordern f?r die Index-und api Details. Der Index kann noch nicht heruntergeladen werden (soweit ich wei?), und es gibt keine api, die ich kenne, aber bedenken Sie bitte die Website wurde nur in der Beta-Version f?r rund 24 Stunden. Please check back soon :-) 

  Mark

  On Jan 8, 2008 4:54 PM, sensifreak <sensifreak at web.de> wrote:

    Hallo,
    Wie kann eine Seite In den INdex eintragen und gibt es eine API schnittstelle?

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Message: 18
Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 17:48:09 +0000
From: "Mark (Markie)" <newsmarkie at googlemail.com>
Subject: Re: [Search-l] Seite eintragen
To: "Mailing list for Search Wikia" <search-l at wikia.com>
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ahhh you can add it to the whitelist

http://search.wikia.com/wiki/Whitelist

mark

On Jan 8, 2008 5:13 PM, sensifreak <sensifreak at web.de> wrote:

>  i dont want do download the index i want to add a site to it :D is this
> possible?
> thanks
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Mark (Markie) <newsmarkie at googlemail.com>
> *To:* Mailing list for Search Wikia <search-l at wikia.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 08, 2008 5:56 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Search-l] Seite eintragen
>
> if i understand you correctly you are asking for the index and api
> details.  the index cannot yet be downloaded (as far as i know) and there is
> no api that i know of yet, but please remember the site has only been in
> beta for around 24 hrs.  please check back soon :-)
>
> mark
>
>   Auto ?bersetzt :-(
>
> Wenn ich Sie richtig verstanden habe Sie fordern f?r die Index-und api
> Details. Der Index kann noch nicht heruntergeladen werden (soweit ich wei?),
> und es gibt keine api, die ich kenne, aber bedenken Sie bitte die Website
> wurde nur in der Beta-Version f?r rund 24 Stunden. Please check back soon
> :-)
>
> Mark
>
>
> On Jan 8, 2008 4:54 PM, sensifreak <sensifreak at web.de> wrote:
>
> >  Hallo,
> > Wie kann eine Seite In den INdex eintragen und gibt es eine API
> > schnittstelle?
> >
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Message: 19
Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2008 18:24:06 +0000
From: John McCormac <jmcc at hackwatch.com>
Subject: [Search-l] Microsoft Takes Over FAST
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Not quite Search Wikia stuff but it is a very significant move in the whole search business.

Microsoft has bought out Fast. Basically Fast is a small but good player in the search business and 
it may well indicate that Microsoft could be upping its game.

http://www.webmasterworld.com/msft/3543002.htm

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Message: 20
Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 22:01:18 +0300
From: "Maxim Zakharov" <maxime at maxime.net.ru>
Subject: Re: [Search-l] Microsoft Takes Over FAST
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Hi,

FAST is a good player on  the enterprise search market, and AFAIK they have
been failed on Internet-span market.
So, may be MS keen to compete against Google Search Appliances with this
acquisition.

On 1/8/08, John McCormac <jmcc at hackwatch.com> wrote:
>
> Not quite Search Wikia stuff but it is a very significant move in the
> whole search business.
>
> Microsoft has bought out Fast. Basically Fast is a small but good player
> in the search business and
> it may well indicate that Microsoft could be upping its game.
>
>

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Message: 21
Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 14:15:54 -0500
From: "Alex Halavais" <alex at halavais.net>
Subject: Re: [Search-l] Automatically linking to Wikipedia
To: "Mailing list for Search Wikia" <search-l at wikia.com>
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The irony here is that Google already links to Wikipedia for most
searches of article titles (headwords). Just try searching Google for
"Monkey", "Kevin Kline" or "triglycerides" and you find the Wikipedia
entry in the first few hits.

Which, frankly, makes sense. It reflects a useful resource for most
people who are searching using topical terms that are the names of
Wikipedia articles. A better question may be where those Wikipedia
entries will fall in Wikia's results among results once Wikipedia is
included in the index. Adding a link to Wikipedia automatically seems
pretty moot if the first link among the results will be to Wikipedia
once the index is plumped out.

But, then, that really brings up the question of the raison d'?tre of
the Minis. I don't mean to be negative (especially since that doesn't
seem to be allowed ;) ) but they really feel like a feature in search
of a need. Is the model Knol with peer editing? Or About.com v2. Or
Yahoo/DMOZ v2. Or??? Wikipedia started with a model of articles in
people's head: the encyclopedias they had used throughout their lives.
Of course that model evolved and became more specific over time, but
at least there was a core central idea. Without a clear direction, I
doubt there will be rapid convergence toward a consensus on what they
are supposed to do. And if that idea already exists, it needs to be
more clearly communciated.

- Alex

On Jan 8, 2008 12:39 PM, Bani <borboleta at gmail.com> wrote:
> I like the idea of linking better than fetching the content.
>
> My suggestion is: for mini-aticles that don't exist but are on
> Wikipedia, we suggest it as a source of information to start a new
> article. And even when the mini-article already exists, we could have
> something like a "see also [link to wikipedia] for more information".
>
>
> On Jan 8, 2008 2:41 PM, Mark (Markie) <newsmarkie at googlemail.com> wrote:
> > i think if its possible we should maybe do something that fetches the
> > content from the wikipedia page of foo (obv for the search term of foo)
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Message: 22
Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 20:08:38 +0100
From: a-post at my-mail.ch
Subject: [Search-l] Autoreply: Re:  Microsoft Takes Over FAST
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