[Search-l] Seth on moderation

[Michael Wechner]

jwales at imap.wikia.com wrote:

>Angela is really the primary moderator although I am checking the queue 
>too.
>  
>

ok

>If people want a mailing list open to random discourse on whether free 
>software is a good idea or not, whether I am evil or not, whether wikia 
>is a good idea or not, whether there is a secret conspiracy to whatever, 
>I am happy to provide a forum for those things.  Unmoderated, 
>uncontrolled, knock yourself out. :-)
>  
>

maybe not a bad idea, because the current description of the list 
"search-I" is currently very general

http://lists.wikia.com/mailman/listinfo/search-l

I think either you need to accept that people will post very general 
remarks (including FUD) or you need to define it more precisely

>I won't be subscribing,  though.  I intend to build a company grounded 
>in principles of free culture, transparency, and openness. 
>

well, you need to define these terms and also provide information 
accordingly

> I believe in 
>community control.
>

this is one reason I was asking who are the moderators of this list

>  I intend to do well by doing good.  And so I really 
>don't care what negative people and FUD mongers think. :-)
>  
>
>I intend for this list to be a working list. As such, let's imagine we 
>need to discuss something philosophical and potentially difficult, like 
>privacy controls or how to appropriately define NPOV for search results. 
>Then I insist that we do so in an atmosphere of "assume good faith".  
>  
>

very good, so just improve the description of the mailing list and 
provide a mailing list for everything else.

Then you might want to reset Seth's status, because no matter if Seth 
was wrong or right with what he was writing, I don't think he should 
have been banned in the way you did, but rather on a well-defined 
argument, which I am currently missing and as long as such an argument 
is missing (including a public vote of the moderators) I consider him 
"innocent".

Sorry if I might sound pedantic, but I think it's important to clearly 
define such processes and discuss it accordingly if a project like wikia 
search really wants to be open and transparent.

Cheers

Michael

>The conversation about whether I hold my positions from unstated evil 
>motives is a waste of my time... and yours.
>--sent from sidekick
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