[Search-l] wrong questions

[Mark (Markie)]

On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 10:28 PM, Paul Vixie <vixie at isc.org> wrote:

> newsmarkie at googlemail.com ("Mark (Markie)") writes:
>
> > > in the long run we need all Pentium III chips to move to museums, or
> > > landfills, and starting pretty soon, Pentium 4 chips as well.
> >
> > is there nothing else that could be done with those servers? leaving them
> > in a warehouse seems wierd to me, you could always mail them to ppl :-p
>
> i've given ~200 of them to shadowserver.org to use as honeypot victims.
>  that
> was the limit of their power.  we're also sending them out as passive DNS
> sensor machines (see http://sie.isc.org/, plz run a sensor if you can!).
>  for
> most uses a P3 or P4 machine isn't worth its fedex costs.
>

well its still nice to see something being done with them, but it does raise
the q of why they were bought in the first place, if you want to get rid of
them already.....

>
> > > domain names are brands, and swlabs.org isn't a meaningful one for an
> > > SVN used by this project.  i suggest moving it to svn.search.wikia.com
> > > or svn.search.isc.org or similar, and adding a bug tracker, or
> > > installing a sourceforge instance, or similar.  a wiki by itself does
> > > not a community make.
> >
> > this is one thing that we are working on atm.  we are setting up a
> vanilla
> > drupal instance and are going to get it all sorted out with the svn, bug
> > tracker, blog etc etc, and hoepfully that will be up in the next few
> weeks
> > :-D
>
> is swlabs incorporated?  what's its mission?  who is its board?  is it a
> recognized nonprofit public benefit?  the days when a few of us could get
> a domain name and some servers and start a project without any paperwork
> are coming to an end.  since one of the operative questions at the moment
> is "does wikia control $x?", any $x which does not have its own strong
> identity and transparent ownership/control is a bad answer to that
> question.
>
> i'm all for you beefing up swlabs.org if that's what you want to do, but
> it
> has to be more than a domain name and some hosts and some cooperative
> sysadmin.


swlabs.org is only a domain name, owned by jer (donated for use by/for
wikia) and is NOT a seperate organisation.  when i said it was a server for
the community etc etc, that server is provided by, afaik, wikia for our
use.  thus wikia/jer own all of that.  thus i would count it as "a wikia
resource, for community use".


>
>
> > > who here can run a non-wikia.com social search backend, which can
> > > consume these database dumps and allow local editing/authorship of
> > > mini-articles, so that the editorial considerations of this kind of
> > > flooding can be learned while the monster is still in its larval stage?
> > > note that if it's free and open, ISC could host it, and i'd even be
> > > willing to throw a couple more P-III's and P4's on the stove for it, as
> > > long as nobody at ISC has to do any sysadmin on them.
> >
> > maybe use the swlabs.org for this?
>
> sure, but, see above.
> --
> Paul Vixie
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