[Search-l] Fwd: Scour invite

[Marc .]

Hi Mark,
I agree that it "may just be a waiting game for now" with more users
improving the quality, however there are a lot of new SE (and
competition) out there and we may be missing users (and quality) if we
"only wait" for users to react --that's why a reward system could
help.
Anyway, a reward may not be "That hard" to do so.
According to the Mike Duffy and Oren Shani mails from 29/03 and 23/03
2007 (yes, i have a good memory ; ) it's seems that is possible to
have a "self organized" system based on the people behaviours (there
are detailed articles written at
http://search.wikia.com/wiki/Mini:Strobili and
http://ishi.lanl.gov/symintel.html ). To make the reward system, I
think it should be possible to analyse the people behaviours and when
the user behaviours "match" to the other people behaviour, according
to the "Strobili" concepts, the people receives a "good points" --I
may be wrong, but maybe Mike or Ofren can give us their opinion.
What do you (and the other guys) think?

Best Regards,
Marc Rosenfeld



2008/8/31 Mark (Markie) <newsmarkie at googlemail.com>:
> reading back over my mail, maybe i was a bit ott and i appologise for that
> now.
>
> however wikia does have revenue, both ad and private investment, so them not
> having money is not a problem.  the issue of rewards though to me is
> synonymous with greed. ie where money comes so do more peole, however
> quality may not.  managing to seperate between "good" and "bad"
> contributions and then seperating out rewards to only the "right" people
> would IMO be VERY hard to do, so to me isnt really a viable idea.  however i
> do agree that it would be nice :-p  i would also agree that an incentive to
> edit/contribute would be good, however looking at projects such as wikipedia
> they have no incentives, so it may just be a waiting game for now.  if we
> manage to increase the use, then hopefully the quality and therefore useage
> would then snowball and would be a positive feedback cycle of improving
> quality -> more users -> improving quality etc etc.  also the site stats are
> showing a steady and evenly increasing trend of around 2-4% so hoepfully we
> are on the first part of the above cycle :-)
>
> regards (and appologies for the bulky mail)
>
> mark
>
> On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 10:06 PM, Marc . <marcnaweb at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Mark,
>>
>> The first link that appears in the mail was only www.scour .com
>> anyway I understand your angry and u are right, i should delete any
>> other link (i did it now) --and put a space in the scoour link to
>> avoid any misunderstands)..
>>
>> Coming to the reward system, this approach could benefit wikia if it
>> made in a different/ "wikia original" way to engage people to
>> collaborate in the community.
>>
>> Apparently wikia doesn´t has any revenue yet, but the quality of the
>> SE could allow it to have it, in this case the contributors could have
>> a share (let say, 20%) of the revenues according to their contribution
>> --this could be done if we "adapt" the ESP game  (cited here in a mail
>> before) to work in results pages http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ESP_Game
>> (yes, i am a marketing man and think that a strong marketing plan
>> could make wikia works better ; )
>> What do you think?
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Marc Rosenfeld
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 2008/8/30, Mark (Markie) <newsmarkie at googlemail.com>:
>> > ive gotta say this is a lame attempt to get your self referal credits on
>> > scour  :-(  also ive had a look at it and it seems the credit system
>> > means
>> > that the actual input is lame to be honest, (try searching for cheese
>> > and
>> > look at the comments)
>> >
>> > the idea of rewards in itself isnt too bad, but finding the funds and
>> > checking it to make sure that what your paying people for isnt indeed
>> > crap
>> > is the hard bit. mahalo seems to manage it well enough, but ive heard
>> > from
>> > various people that contibuting/working for them is a pain in the....
>> >
>> > anyways ive refused to click your referal link, try harder next time
>> >
>> > regards
>> >
>> > mark
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 5:37 PM, Marc . <marcnaweb at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Hi,
>> > > I received this invite: apparently this SE is approaching a similar
>> > > way to wikia to get better results: the users "votes" in the best
>> > > results, and can receive money for it, but cannot customize their
>> > > results, like in wikia.
>> > > However, maybe wikia could make a similar "points rewards" to market
>> > > the SE among Internet users, what do you think?
>> > >
>> > > Best Regards,
>> > > Marc Rosenfeld
>> > >
>>
>> > > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> > > From: .... <noreply at scour.com>
>> > > Date: 2008/8/30
>> > > Subject: Scour invite from Gabriel Toueg
>> > > To: marcnaweb at gmail.com
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Did you hear about Scour? It is the next gen search engine with
>> > > Google/Yahoo/MSN results and user comments all on one page. Best of
>> > > all we
>> > > get rewarded for using it by collecting points with every search,
>> > > comment
>> > > and vote. The points are redeemable for Visa gift cards It's like
>> > > earning
>> > > credit card or airline points just for searching. Hit the link below
>> > > to
>> > join
>> > > and we will both get points!
>> > > > > I know you'll like it!
>> > >
>> > > - .....
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
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