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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=maroon face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:maroon'>The brainstorming page is a good
start. If Search Wikia is making a big announcement soon, maybe that’ll
provide some direction for those of us milling around on this list, thinking
about how a good wiki-search should work… I mean, this list is a place to
be generating ideas, throwing off sparks, rallying the base… not spitting
and spatting and flaming to and fro.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:maroon'><a
href="http://www.chacha.com/info/about">http://www.chacha.com/info/about</a>
Cha Cha is kind of interesting… but any mediation or live guidance will
be overwhelmed by the volume of search requests… <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=maroon face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:maroon'>This happens in librarianship… one
example is the Ask-a-Librarian feature many libraries have for patrons, where
you can use an e-mail form to request help. When librarians look at
search histories (in databases vendors like EBSCOHost), they can guide students/patrons
and make suggestions on how to better frame search syntax. EBSCO recently
changed its default search interface for all (or most?) of its databases to
make “exact phrase searching” the default… teaching patrons
the differences between “exact phrases” and (exact AND phrases),
and therefore how to get more out of your search, is a big part of what
librarians do. It’s info literacy.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=maroon face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:maroon'>so… a mediated (or collaborative)
search engine of any volume whatsoever will, seems to me, <i><span
style='font-style:italic'>have to be</span></i> asynchronous… which
brings in a load of new limitations… one fix could be some sort of IM
search help. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=maroon face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:maroon'>NYPL does it:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:maroon'><a
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=maroon face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:maroon'>The Air Force librarians do it:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=maroon face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:maroon'><a
href="http://aal20.tutor.com/nGEN/Apps/SocWeb/main.aspx?ID=de076e6e-1391-47e6-87b1-d5e2897dd03b">http://aal20.tutor.com/nGEN/Apps/SocWeb/main.aspx?ID=de076e6e-1391-47e6-87b1-d5e2897dd03b</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=maroon face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:maroon'>It could be that thousands of committed
Search Wikia users could provide this service for each other.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Raavi><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Raavi;color:black'>Woody Evans<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=maroon face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:maroon'>“Bigotry is the disease of
ignorance, of morbid minds; enthusiasm of the free and buoyant. Education &
free discussion are the antidotes of both.”</span></font><font
color=maroon><span style='color:maroon'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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</span></font><font size=1 color=maroon><span style='font-size:7.5pt;
color:maroon'>– Thomas Jefferson</span></font><font color=maroon><span
style='color:maroon'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
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search-l-bounces@wikia.com [mailto:search-l-bounces@wikia.com] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Jacob Kristian Andresen<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, April 30, 2007 12:43
AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> search-l@wikia.com<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Search-l] Simpy
Chichimichi - "Wikia Search - Not Happening"</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Let's take this
opportunity to actually write content on <a
href="http://search.wikia.com/wiki/Brainstorming">http://search.wikia.com/wiki/Brainstorming</a><br>
<br>
I just outlined the idea of "community ranking" on the wiki. I
welcome comments there. <br>
<br>
<br>
Jacob Andresen<br>
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<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=gmailquote><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>On 30/04/07, <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Keith
Botley</span></b> <<a href="mailto:Keith@botley.net">Keith@botley.net</a>>
wrote:</span></font></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<br>
> I advise everyone who thinks this is going to be a hell of a lot of fun,<br>
> turning the entire industry upside down... to do the same. :)<br>
><br>
> I'd kick him off the list, but that's not my style. A few
critics <br>
> around to stir the stew can keep us on our toes as we move forward.<br>
><br>
> --Jimbo<br>
<br>
<br>
You have to give Seth credit for keeping a dying mailing list alive. He has<br>
provided some informative posts related to what others are saying about <br>
wikia search and certainly hasn't posted anything that deserves a punt from<br>
the list.<br>
<br>
This was my first attempt to join a community driven development project. I<br>
was intrigued because of the value that Wikipedia provides to the web at <br>
large and that the founder of Wikipedia was involved to make search a<br>
community driven process.<br>
<br>
My question is what and who is the "us" that JW refers to above? I
thought<br>
that the whole idea was to be transparent and bring together a community of <br>
technology experts.<br>
<br>
< The project is going full speed ahead.<br>
<br>
Sounds like smoke and mirrors to me, based on what I have to go on. It<br>
appears that Wikia Search is falling faster than Brady Quinn in the NFL <br>
draft and unless I can get concrete information that wikia search is<br>
actually going full speed ahead a certain amount of skepticism is in order.<br>
<br>
I'll probably get kicked for this ;-(<br>
<br>
Keith Botley<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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