From johnb.beckett at gmail.com  Sun Jul 12 08:56:45 2009
From: johnb.beckett at gmail.com (John Beckett)
Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 18:56:45 +1000
Subject: [Vim-l] Candidates for deletion
Message-ID: <96F12D71504B4DDD827C50C4EF3F2266@quartz>

Next weekend I intend deleting all the stuff at:
http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Candidates_for_deletion

Please reply if you see any problems, or edit the talk page of
the above.

Progress on the wiki is slow but steady. One positive sign is
that it is now relatively easy to find reasonable tips for the
"Did you know?" section on the main page.
http://vim.wikia.com/

John


From fritzophrenic at gmail.com  Thu Jul 16 14:30:22 2009
From: fritzophrenic at gmail.com (Benjamin Fritz)
Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 09:30:22 -0500
Subject: [Vim-l] Rich text editor
Message-ID: <d5702ec20907160730t2f3ecd98g416cd601866ab442@mail.gmail.com>

Recently, the rich text editor has been making some annoying changes
automatically. Mostly, I've noticed the automatic conversion of all
'<' and '>' characters into the corresponding html entities, even
where this is not needed. In a wiki with a lot of code, often
containing quite a few '<' and '>' characters, this often makes tips
unreadable when viewing the source.

Additionally, from http://help.wikia.com/wiki/Help:Rich_text_editor I
see the following:

"Please note that the editor is not currently supported on the Safari,
Opera and Chrome browsers"

Since these are the three browsers I have used most often at home
recently, that sentence holds a special level of "ugh" for me.

John has reversed a few of these changes.

I wonder if it is worth disabling the rich text editor entirely? From
http://help.wikia.com/wiki/Help:Rich_text_editor we see the following:

"To disable the new editor for a single article you can use the
special word __NOWYSIWYG__ (Note: The new editor system will still be
loaded, but will be locked to 'source' mode.)"

I imagine we could put this keyword in our TipNew, TipImported, and
TipProposed templates as a quick way to mostly disable the rich text
editor on our wiki, since these templates occur on almost every page
where the rich text editor would cause problems.

Thoughts, anyone?

From johnb.beckett at gmail.com  Thu Jul 16 21:39:19 2009
From: johnb.beckett at gmail.com (John Beckett)
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 07:39:19 +1000
Subject: [Vim-l] Rich text editor
In-Reply-To: <d5702ec20907160730t2f3ecd98g416cd601866ab442@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d5702ec20907160730t2f3ecd98g416cd601866ab442@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <345126BDDFB649D9A16C1CDC552A5895@quartz>

Benjamin Fritz wrote:
> "To disable the new editor for a single article you can use
> the special word __NOWYSIWYG__ (Note: The new editor system
> will still be loaded, but will be locked to 'source' mode.)"
>
> I imagine we could put this keyword in our TipNew,
> TipImported, and TipProposed templates as a quick way to
> mostly disable the rich text editor on our wiki, since these
> templates occur on almost every page where the rich text
> editor would cause problems.

I was thinking of collecting a bit of evidence, then seeing if
I could get the abomination disabled on the Vim Tips wiki (by
hassling Wikia staff, or possibly Angela).

I haven't got time to check at the moment, but it looks as if
the Rich Text Editor might have just stuffed up some http
references thinking that they were attempts to link to an
external web site.
http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/PHP_online_help

Also, it has stopped changing all the colons we have
(changing ":" to "<nowiki>:</nowiki>"), but now it's replacing
the space before the colon with a nonbreaking space
(so "this :command" becomes "this&#160;:command").

At any rate, Ben's suggestion might be a good workaround,
although if it works, it would only work if the whole page is
edited (the system has to see __NOWYSIWYG__ in the wikitext that
it is editing).

John