[Wikia-l] new Monaco skin available...

[DanTMan]

The sidebar has always been in a format:
* text
** link|text
Even in the default sidebars you see:
* navigation
** mainpage|mainpage
Signifying that you always use the | format for links, and without it 
the item is meant to be text.
In fact, last time I checked the code, if you don't specify a | for the 
MonoBook sidebar on the second level, it won't even display.

Perhaps, instead of a ugly workaround we should go with the expected 
standard. Anything with a | should be a link, and anything without one 
should just be text.

~Daniel Friesen(Dantman) of:
-The Gaiapedia (http://gaia.wikia.com)
-Wikia ACG on Wikia.com (http://wikia.com/wiki/Wikia_ACG)
-and Wiki-Tools.com (http://wiki-tools.com)

JohnQ wrote:
> I think we can solve this technically with something like what Timothy 
> has below. We'd have to differentiate links from non-links on the top 
> level nav and that might make it look a bit weird. Let me poke at this a 
> bit to see if there's a good middle ground.
>
> Thanks,
> John Q.
>
>
> Timothy J. Crowell wrote:
>   
>> *|{{FULLPAGENAME}}|A
>> **a1|a1text
>> **a2|a2text
>> *{{FULLPAGENAME}}|B
>> **b1|b1text
>> **b2|b2text
>>
>> That is what I use as a workaround, something like:
>>
>> #nolinksubmenu#|A
>>
>> ...would be nice.
>>
>> -Timothy
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 10:03 PM, Jamie Hari <jamie at marveldatabase.com> wrote:
>>   
>>     
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>>
>>> Let me be the first to say a big thank you for all Wikia's hard work on this
>>> new skin! Looks amazing so far. I can't wait to hear from my community about
>>> it...
>>>
>>>
>>> With that said, I have found one 'bug' with Monaco. ('bug' or 'design
>>> preference', what have you...)
>>> In the monaco-sidebar, when defining a top-level header, it automatically
>>> links to the page of the same name.
>>>
>>> For instance:
>>>
>>>
>>> *A
>>> **a1|a1text
>>> **a2|a2text
>>> *B|Btext
>>> **b1|b1text
>>> **b2|b2text
>>>
>>> A and B are automatically links to [[A]] and [[B]], which may not be
>>> desirable in all cases.
>>> On the Marvel Database, 'Top Content' is a top-level link, but we have no
>>> page called 'Top Content'.
>>>
>>> http://en.marveldatabase.com/Top_Content
>>>
>>> The easy fix is a redirect, but on those wikis who don't create the
>>> redirects, this could be confusing for fast-fingered new visitors...
>>>  In this break-out menuing style, shouldn't we be able to define if each is
>>> a link or not?
>>>
>>>
>>> Thoughts?
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jamie Hari
>>> Editor-in-Chief
>>> Marvel & DC Database Projects
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2/25/08, JohnQ <johnq at wikia.com> wrote:
>>>     
>>>       
>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>
>>>> Last Friday we made Monaco the default on 1500 of the smallest wikis so
>>>> that we could test it out in a variety of environments. We found a few
>>>> issues that we've been working to fix before making it more generally
>>>> available. I'm happy to announce that Monaco is now available in your
>>>> skin preferences so that you can check out your wiki in this new skin.
>>>> We consider this much more a successor to monobook and hope you like it.
>>>>
>>>> In the next few days, unless we find any blocking issues, all wikis that
>>>> currently have a Quartz default will be changed to a Monaco default. If
>>>> you want to switch it back, you can via the skin chooser. For the wikis
>>>> with fairly heavy customization (ffxi, marveldatabase, dcdatabase,
>>>> wookieepedia, etc.), there should already be a custom version of Monaco.
>>>> To check it out in advance just select "Monaco - custom" for your
>>>> personal skin preference (you may need to un-check "see custom" so that
>>>> the overall wiki setting isn't overriding your personal choice).
>>>>
>>>> Some wikis have already set Monaco as the default skin by themselves:
>>>> http://muppet.wikia.com  (admins, just go to skin preferences, scroll to
>>>> the bottom to "Admin options" and you can set it there, too).
>>>>
>>>> There is a page here:
>>>> http://inside.wikia.com/wiki/Monaco_Skin_Customization that talks in
>>>> more depth about how to customize Monaco.
>>>> There is a page here: http://inside.wikia.com/wiki/New_Skin_Chooser
>>>> that talks about the skin chooser in more depth if you have questions
>>>> about that.
>>>>
>>>> One nice thing about Monaco is that you can create your own personal
>>>> sidebar and toolbox links (see the customization page for how to do that).
>>>>
>>>> Please take a look at your wiki with Monaco and let us know if you find
>>>> any issues.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> John Q.
>>>>
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