[Wikia-l] Wikia-l Digest, Vol 29, Issue 5

[John Q Smith]

Hi Anupam,
I've asked the team to have the /wiki/Special:Statistics link more directly
to the stats page. As it is now, it links to a description page on Central (
www.wikia.com) and the first link on that page takes you to the in-depth
statistics. As we've grown, the processing power needed to general those
stats keeps growing (we inherited the stats script from MediaWiki) and
currently it's taking about 7-10 days to do a complete statistics run.
Within a few weeks, we'll be launching a new statistics page that is both
more efficient in it's processing and cleans up some inconsistencies in the
original MediaWiki stats script.

As for wysiwyg editing, this has been the holy grail for a number of wikis.
We started an effort around this last year with SocialText and
underestimated the complexity of what was needed to support legacy wikitext.
In fact, for a while Brion V. over at Wikimedia thought a wysiwyg editor
might not be possible. Back in August at WikiMania in Taiwan, we saw that
FCKeditor had been working on an extension that would work with MediaWiki
(they've had one for a while but the difference is that this one supported
native wikitext as opposed to html on the backend). Since then, one of our
engineers in Poland has spent part of his time working with the FCKeditor
guys on this particular extension (who also happen to be in Poland). This is
not a small project and we've had some other priorities for the first part
of this year, however in the last few weeks I've asked that our effort on
this be stepped up again. We're well aware of the barrier to entry that
exists... however we also have to provide for our core editors so that the
new tool doesn't allow newbies to unknowingly mess up existing wikitext.

With all that said, I hope to be able to launch a preliminary version in 6-8
weeks assuming that we're able to keep our focus on this in light of other
priorities that always pop up. The introduction of this tool will most
likely be on new wikis first so that we can gauge effect and see if it's
worth expanding to other sites. As soon as we have an solid alpha version of
this we'll announce public test sites so we can get feedback from everyone,
too.

Thanks,
John Q.


On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 5:23 PM, Anupam Saraph <anupamsaraph at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Thanks, it is faster but can the page loads improve further? :-)
>
> See the statistics at http://government.wikia.com/wiki/
> Special:Statistics. The views are obviously wrong and the link does
> not lead to detailed statistics any more.
>
> I'll try out the table buttons and get back. Is the wysiwig editor
> enabled? How can it be enabled to reduce the entry barrier?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Anupam
>
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 00:22:56 -0400
> > From: "C Stafford" <c.stafford at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Wikia-l] wysiwig editor, wikia speed, statistics
> > To: "Central Wikia Mailing List" <wikia-l at wikia.com>
> > Message-ID:
> >       <613c581d0807212122l7beb99f9j989d338356c13537 at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> > now that its 12 hours too late. about the time you wrote your
> > emails, there
> > was a technical problem that caused extreme slowness for everyone.
> > it was
> > quickly rectified by the wonderful ops team.
> >
> > which statistics were you referring to that were not updating?
> >
> > you do not see table creation buttons because they are not part of the
> > standard set of buttons. you have to add them to your wiki your self.
> > http://help.wikia.com/wiki/Help:Custom_edit_buttons
> > images are at http://www.wikia.com/wiki/
> > Category:Custom_edit_buttons (i
> > already made and uploaded table ones months ago)
> >
> > -uberfuzzy
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 1:02 PM, Anupam Saraph
> > <anupamsaraph at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Help! Many users on government.wikia.com have been complaining
> >> about the
> >> long times it takes for pages to load-.
> >> Much to the surprise of everyone the statistics for the site seems
> >> completely wrong- are the counters working? How?
> >>
> >> In the edit window the table creation buttons are not seen- Can a
> >> wysiwig
> >> editor like FCKeditor be enabled for the wiki?
> >>
> >> Thanks!
> >>
> >> Anupam
> >>
> >>
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