[Wikia-l] Wikia-l Digest, Vol 38, Issue 3

Anupam Saraph anupamsaraph at gmail.com
Sun Apr 26 12:22:43 UTC 2009


>

Perhaps you are right, it may be a temporary access issue. The  
routing seems to have too many jumps judging by the long delay in  
response. So it is quite possible one of the servers does go down  
often. However some wikias seem to connect faster. Also some wikias  
seem to have a significant packet loss despite fewer jumps in other  
locations. You can have this tested for all wikias from just-ping.com  
which has test sites across the world to check access to your url.  
(some data below for quick reference).

The last couple of times I checked there was more than 20% packet  
loss in India, on some occasions more than 50%.

Anupam


ping: government.wikia.com (Check http://government.wikia.com/)				
  Location	Result	min. rrt	avg. rrt	max. rrt
  Amsterdam3, Netherlands:	Okay	7.4	7.6	7.9
  Amsterdam2, Netherlands:	Okay	8.1	8.2	8.3
  Florida, U.S.A.:	Okay	34.3	34.5	34.6
  Hong Kong, China:	Okay	232.6	253.3	266.8
  Sydney, Australia:	Okay	158	159.7	165.9
  New York, U.S.A.:	Okay	35.3	35.5	35.8
  Stockholm, Sweden:	Okay	43.4	43.6	43.8
  Santa Clara, U.S.A.:	Okay	4.7	4.9	5.1
  Vancouver, Canada:	Okay	22.8	23	23.2
  Krakow, Poland:	Okay	36.2	36.4	36.5
  London, United Kingdom:	Okay	1.2	1.6	2
  Madrid, Spain:	Okay	25.9	26.4	27.1
  Cagliari, Italy:	Okay	38.7	39.2	39.7
  Singapore, Singapore:	Okay	380	382	384.6
  Austin, U.S.A.:	Okay	31.4	31.6	31.7
  Cologne, Germany:	Okay	21.7	21.9	22.3
  Munchen, Germany:	Okay	32.5	33	33.4
  Amsterdam, Netherlands:	Okay	10.6	10.8	11.1
  Paris, France:	Okay	9.2	9.3	9.4
  Shanghai, China:	Packets lost (100%)	 	
  Melbourne, Australia:	Okay	169.7	172.2	176.7
  Copenhagen, Denmark:	Okay	19.2	19.4	19.6
  Rio de Janeiro, Brazil:	Checkpoint temporarily not available	-	-	-
  Lille, France:	Okay	12.5	13	14.5
  San Francisco, U.S.A.:	Okay	2.4	2.7	2.9
  Chicago, U.S.A.:	Okay	6.4	6.5	6.8
  Zurich, Switzerland:	Okay	26	26.2	26.8
  Johannesburg, South Africa:	Okay	271.5	405.1	531
  Mumbai, India:	Okay	306.6	309.2	310.5
  Nagano, Japan:	Okay	116	117.9	120.4
  Haifa, Israel:	Okay	90.3	93.2	99.1
  Auckland, New Zealand:	Okay	160.6	161.3	162
  Groningen, Netherlands:	Okay	14.6	15.2	15.8
  Antwerp, Belgium:	Okay	10.4	11	11.9
  Dublin, Ireland:	Okay	11.6	12.1	12.7
  Moscow, Russia:	Okay	70.8	71	71.3
  Oslo, Norway:	Okay	26.5	26.8	27.1


ping: genealogy.wikia.com (Check http://genealogy.wikia.com/)				
  Location	Result	min. rrt	avg. rrt	max. rrt
  Amsterdam3, Netherlands:	Okay	7.6	7.7	8.2
  Amsterdam2, Netherlands:	Okay	8.1	8.2	8.5
  Florida, U.S.A.:	Okay	34.4	34.4	34.5
  Hong Kong, China:	Okay	237.9	258.3	274.1
  Sydney, Australia:	Okay	157.8	158.1	158.5
  New York, U.S.A.:	Okay	35.4	35.5	35.9
  Stockholm, Sweden:	Okay	43.5	43.6	43.7
  Santa Clara, U.S.A.:	Okay	4.7	4.9	5.3
  Vancouver, Canada:	Okay	22.8	22.9	23.2
  Krakow, Poland:	Okay	36.2	36.5	36.7
  London, United Kingdom:	Okay	1.2	1.8	2
  Madrid, Spain:	Okay	26	26.5	27.8
  Cagliari, Italy:	Okay	38.8	39	39.2
  Singapore, Singapore:	Okay	380.4	382.7	383.8
  Austin, U.S.A.:	Okay	31.4	31.5	31.7
  Cologne, Germany:	Packets lost (60%)	21.7	21.9	22.1
  Munchen, Germany:	Okay	32.7	33	33.3
  Amsterdam, Netherlands:	Okay	7.7	8	8.2
  Paris, France:	Okay	9	9.2	9.4
  Shanghai, China:	Packets lost (100%)	 	
  Melbourne, Australia:	Okay	169.8	171.7	177.1
  Copenhagen, Denmark:	Okay	19.3	19.4	19.6
  Rio de Janeiro, Brazil:	Checkpoint temporarily not available	-	-	-
  Lille, France:	Okay	12.5	13.3	15.3
  San Francisco, U.S.A.:	Okay	2.5	2.7	2.9
  Chicago, U.S.A.:	Okay	6.4	6.5	6.7
  Zurich, Switzerland:	Okay	25.8	26.2	26.7
  Johannesburg, South Africa:	checking...			
  Mumbai, India:	Okay	306.4	308.4	310.2
  Nagano, Japan:	Okay	116.1	119	120.4
  Haifa, Israel:	Okay	90.2	94.5	105.2
  Auckland, New Zealand:	checking...			
  Groningen, Netherlands:	Okay	14.9	15.3	15.7
  Antwerp, Belgium:	Okay	10.4	11	11.5
  Dublin, Ireland:	Okay	11.8	12	12.3
  Moscow, Russia:	checking...			
  Oslo, Norway:	Okay	26.4	26.6	26.7

ping: campaigns.wikia.com (Check http://campaigns.wikia.com/)

ping: campaigns.wikia.com (Check http://campaigns.wikia.com/)				
  Location	Result	min. rrt	avg. rrt	max. rrt
  Amsterdam3, Netherlands:	Okay	7.5	7.6	7.7
  Amsterdam2, Netherlands:	Okay	8.1	8.3	8.5
  Florida, U.S.A.:	Okay	34.3	34.4	34.6
  Hong Kong, China:	Okay	252.3	264.1	273.5
  Sydney, Australia:	Okay	157.9	159.5	167.8
  New York, U.S.A.:	Okay	35.4	35.5	35.7
  Stockholm, Sweden:	Okay	43.4	43.5	43.7
  Santa Clara, U.S.A.:	Okay	4.8	5	5.2
  Vancouver, Canada:	Okay	22.8	22.9	23.1
  Krakow, Poland:	Okay	36.2	36.4	36.7
  London, United Kingdom:	Okay	1.3	1.8	2
  Madrid, Spain:	Okay	24.7	25.2	25.8
  Cagliari, Italy:	Okay	38.9	39.2	39.6
  Singapore, Singapore:	Okay	365	376.7	381.1
  Austin, U.S.A.:	Okay	31.3	31.4	31.5
  Cologne, Germany:	Okay	21.6	21.8	22.1
  Munchen, Germany:	Okay	32.7	33	33.5
  Amsterdam, Netherlands:	Okay	10.7	11	11.2
  Paris, France:	Okay	9.1	9.2	9.3
  Shanghai, China:	Packets lost (100%)	 	
  Melbourne, Australia:	Okay	169.9	172.4	176.4
  Copenhagen, Denmark:	Okay	19.3	19.4	19.6
  Rio de Janeiro, Brazil:	Checkpoint temporarily not available	-	-	-
  Lille, France:	Okay	12.4	13.3	14.7
  San Francisco, U.S.A.:	Okay	2.5	2.7	3.1
  Chicago, U.S.A.:	Okay	6.4	6.6	7
  Zurich, Switzerland:	Okay	26.1	26.4	26.6
  Johannesburg, South Africa:	Okay	278.7	408.8	564.2
  Mumbai, India:	Okay	306.7	308.8	310.6
  Nagano, Japan:	Okay	116	118.3	120.6
  Haifa, Israel:	Okay	90.6	92.8	97.1
  Auckland, New Zealand:	Okay	160.6	161.7	163.1
  Groningen, Netherlands:	Okay	14.7	15.1	15.6
  Antwerp, Belgium:	Okay	10.9	12.8	17.9
  Dublin, Ireland:	Okay	11.6	12.1	12.6
  Moscow, Russia:	Okay	71.8	72	72.1
  Oslo, Norway:	Okay	26.3	26.7	27.2


ping: lostopedia.wikia.com (Check http://lostopedia.wikia.com/)				
  Location	Result	min. rrt	avg. rrt	max. rrt
  Amsterdam3, Netherlands:	Okay	7.5	7.6	7.7
  Amsterdam2, Netherlands:	Okay	8.1	8.2	8.4
  Florida, U.S.A.:	Okay	34.4	34.5	34.6
  Hong Kong, China:	Okay	245.2	265.8	274
  Sydney, Australia:	Okay	157.9	161	184.6
  New York, U.S.A.:	Okay	35.5	35.6	35.8
  Stockholm, Sweden:	Okay	43.3	43.5	43.6
  Santa Clara, U.S.A.:	Okay	4.8	5	5.3
  Vancouver, Canada:	Okay	22.8	22.9	23.1
  Krakow, Poland:	Okay	36	36.3	36.4
  London, United Kingdom:	Okay	1.3	1.7	2.1
  Madrid, Spain:	Okay	25.8	26.4	27
  Cagliari, Italy:	Okay	38.8	39	39.3
  Singapore, Singapore:	Okay	380.3	381.9	385
  Austin, U.S.A.:	Okay	31.3	31.5	31.8
  Cologne, Germany:	Okay	21.6	21.8	22.1
  Munchen, Germany:	Okay	32.8	33.1	33.5
  Amsterdam, Netherlands:	Okay	7.9	8.1	8.2
  Paris, France:	Okay	9.2	9.3	9.5
  Shanghai, China:	Packets lost (100%)	 	
  Melbourne, Australia:	Okay	170.2	172.4	176.6
  Copenhagen, Denmark:	Okay	19.2	19.3	19.5
  Rio de Janeiro, Brazil:	Checkpoint temporarily not available	-	-	-
  Lille, France:	Okay	12.5	14.4	20.9
  San Francisco, U.S.A.:	Okay	2.5	2.7	3.1
  Chicago, U.S.A.:	Okay	6.4	6.5	6.7
  Zurich, Switzerland:	Okay	26	26.3	26.8
  Johannesburg, South Africa:	checking...			
  Mumbai, India:	Okay	303.4	304.7	307.4
  Nagano, Japan:	Okay	116	118.3	120.6
  Haifa, Israel:	Okay	91.3	92.6	94
  Auckland, New Zealand:	checking...			
  Groningen, Netherlands:	Okay	14.7	15.1	15.6
  Antwerp, Belgium:	Okay	10.6	11	11.6
  Dublin, Ireland:	Okay	11.9	12.1	12.6
  Moscow, Russia:	checking...			
  Oslo, Norway:	Okay	25.7	25.8	26


> Message: 5
> Date: Sat, 04 Apr 2009 14:07:48 +0200
> From: Jimmy Wales <jwales at wikia-inc.com>
> Subject: Re: [Wikia-l] wikia access across the world
> To: Central Wikia Mailing List <wikia-l at wikia.com>
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> To my knowledge, we aren't blocked in India - however, there could be
> access problems.  Perhaps it was a one-time thing?  Anupam, can you  
> test
> the same way again?
>
> Angela wrote:
>> tOn Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 8:58 AM, Anupam Saraph  
>> <anupamsaraph at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> ping various wikias across the world from just-ping.com.
>>> Many of them show high unavailability in India and complete
>>> unavailability in China. Is this censorship or just net failure?
>>
>> In China, we know the problem  is censorship. Jimmy Wales has met  
>> with
>> officials there in attempts to discuss an unblock of Wikimedia and
>> Wikia projects. Currently I believe Wikipedia is unblocked but
>> Wikinews and Wikia are still blocked in mainland China. I'm not sure
>> what the problem is in India yet, but it's something we'll look into
>> as it is important to us to make sure the knowledge being created at
>> Wikia is globally available, both for reading and editing.
>>
>> Angela
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