[Wikia-l] Abuse Filter extension

[Jimmy Wales]

I used to feel exactly the same way, but I think we both agree that it's 
an empirical question.  "In my experience" you write - and I agree. 
However, I'm very impressed with the data: "The fact that such a message 
set for page blanking turned 56 of 78 page blanking actions into 
constructive wiki edits is very intriguing."



Master Conjurer wrote:
> I disagree.  In my experience on Wikia, human effort has always been 
> superior to automated features.  Whenever somebody blanks a page on one 
> of the wikis I use, it never takes more than an hour to undo it and 
> leave a pleasant message on their talk page (below the usual {{Welcome}} 
> ) along the lines of, "Hi there.  I saw what you did.  Any chance you'd 
> rather help us out?"  It works just as often and has no chance of 
> stopping a genuinely helpful edit the way automated features often do.
> 
> //masterConjurer (talk 
> <http://www.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Master_Conjurer>)
> 
> 
> On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 10:47 PM, Jimmy Wales <jwales at wikia-inc.com 
> <mailto:jwales at wikia-inc.com>> wrote:
> 
>     I really support this kind of thinking... I missed whatever follow-up
>     there was about this, but I love the concept of turning page blanking
>     actions into constructive edits, etc.
> 
>     I think most vandalism is just people testing to see if they can really
>     edit (even after all these years of wiki, people don't believe it), and
>     if the filter pops up and says "hey, how are you? maybe you'd like to
>     spend your time more usefully, you might be happier that way" then most
>     people will respond well to it.
> 
>     Daniel Friesen wrote:
>      > There was an interesting posting to wikitech earlier about Abuse
>     Filter.
>      > Any thoughts on getting the extension on Wikia?
>      >
>      > Rather than just serious filtering of bad behavior it looks like
>     there
>      > are interesting soft filters that can spit out a message to the
>     user and
>      > ask for confirmation.
>      > The fact that such a message set for page blanking turned 56 of
>     78 page
>      > blanking actions into constructive wiki edits is very intriguing.
>      >
>      > I can definitely see a good use for that kind of feature, especially
>      > fitting in with Wikia's ideas for getting new contributors to a wiki.
>      > I can think of a good number of filters I could put on the
>     Narutopedia
>      > which would give a friendly message telling a newbie "You're
>     trying to
>      > do this? It's not normally considered polite here, maybe you
>     wanted to
>      > do this instead?" to help point out things which normally would
>     end up
>      > with someone from the community reverting, tagging for deletion,
>     or whatnot.
>      > Bleh, to bad it can't catch C&P page moves or copyvios from
>     LeafNinja.com.
>      >
> 
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